Classic forum opinions on Joe Clazaghe

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Nov 4, 2007.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I Am Legend KO6 Hotti_Killer.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    But you see, I discussed before JC-MK, because I already knew where his level was at as a dedicated fan.:D

    Let's hope for defeating Bad Chad in his last 2-3 fights, that'll seal it, as Chad Dawson is an awesome fighter and will definitely establish himself as a future HOF level fighter at the LHW-CW range.

    Likely that Kessler establishes himself a future HOF'er also, Kessler is an awesome fighter as well.

    Now,

    Is Joe Calzaghe not grade A Supernatural? He defines the meaning of a supernatural fighter.
     
  3. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mcgrain KO1 himself, you think making stupid replies like calzaghe sucks or when rating lennox lewis just saying he has a glass jaw is good.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    In boxing you HAVE to prove it, to me anyway.

    I want - Hopkins (outdoors on the East coast), then Dawson (Vegas), then Woods, then Frotch, both at home, then retire. Then, you and I can talk my friend!

    I hope so. I like Kessler, man and fighter. Ran into his limitations v Calzaghe though. Calzaghe finishes people as you know...we shall see. I hope so.

    He is a great fighter. A great one. Joe Calzaghe is a great fighter.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Beautiful!
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe, contrary to the commentator's opinion, is a technician. He combines it with unorthodoxy, calculated in-ring risks, and a style that is not supernatural in the least. His style is difficult for a profound reason that most boxers do not grasp:

    Kessler said that Calzaghe "spoils your boxing" -and that is an astute observation. Most boxers are like dancers. They are part of a rythym that involves the other man. Calzaghe has built his style on a far more individualistic foundation that is probably rooted in a great ego: he breaks the other man's rythym, throws off timing, and varies his attack with different shots, unorthodox shots from odd places and at odd times, different speed of shots, and angles. All this from a southpaw stance which is difficult to solve by itself. Here, he is reminiscent of Pep and Whitaker. All three force their opponent to play patsy to a style that forces them to think too much and then makes them pay for thinking.

    [It is not, however, a style that is impervious to defeat. Kessler knew what he was dealing with, but failed to built a foil for it. But that is for another post. ]

    Calzaghe is a ring general, and he has built a rare style on a different foundation than most.
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Here I agree. There have been many times historicaly when the best light heavyweight out there was what we would call a supermiddleweight today. We have a similar situation here.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Havent seen the fight ,but I can find no metion of Kesslers jab ,which Senya rated as in the top three of all time,was it a factor?
     
  9. Jimbo

    Jimbo Super Sharp Shooter Full Member

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    Calzaghe took it away from him and landed significantly more jabs than Kessler.
     
  10. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't throw his jab often enough for one reason or another, and even those he threw were mostly range-finders. Ijnury or whatever, I don't know. Calzaghe was throwing 2-3 jabs in a row (a-la Muhammad Ali), but rarely landed any of them clean, and almost none of them were hard jabs.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    This is why Calzaghe needs to fight Hopkins next. Hopkins has never run from a big money fight. If Calzaghe beats Hopkins, his resume will begin to catch up to his talent. I also like to see Calzaghe vs Winky Wright. This would give Calzaghe two wins over likely hall of fame bound fighters.

    While Clazaghe's resume certainly lacks big names it has to be the cleanest un-defeated record I've ever seen. Has Calzaghe ever been in danger of getting a draw or losing a fight in his 20+ title defenses? As far as I know, the answer to that question is no. This is where he stands alone. Even Marciano, and Lopez had some close fights. In terms of big wins, I think Calzaghe’s win over Kessler was more impressive than any of Rocky’s or Lopez’s wins when you factor in the dominance of the match, the Kessler being in his prime, and Kessler being in the pound for pound discussion before the fight.

    I think Clazaghe was un-defeated as an amatuer too.
     
  12. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    A terrific analysis which describes Calzaghes fighting style perfectly. I'm wholeheartedly in agreement with this post. :good
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should have lost the fight with Robin Reid, as he was constantly hit with right hand after right hand, which staggered him, without giving enough hard punches in return.

    No, he wasn't undefeated, according to British commentators in one of his fights.
     
  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    boxing-records:
    1990: Great-Britain:
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    1990: E.C. Juniors Usti Nad Labem Welterweight:
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  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    great fighter and he needs tostep up at light-heavy now.