Classic Forum picks: Calzaghe vs Jones Jr...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Nemesis, Nov 7, 2008.


  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    :lol:

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  2. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't understand why posters from the UK tend to assume posters from American hate on foreign fighters just because they aren't from the states. Makes no sense to me.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It's obvious plenty let the place of origin get to them. Not all, but plenty.

    I'm from Australia, i don't give two shits where either of them is from and have no alliance at all. As a matter of fact i am a big Jones fan and pick him profusely in dream matchups. I'm not much up with Calz and am not exactly excited by his present style, but the man is getting the job done again and again.

    If the boot was on the other foot i'd be saying the same thing about the Poms, or Welsh or whoever.

    Of course the UK has picked up on this and are now stirring things in all the right places :lol:

    Don't get me wrong, i love some feeling and country vs country stuff (christ, you should see us play "the poms" at anything, especially cricket LOL) but at the end of the day we realise it is just a sporting event, nothing life changing or able to pay the rent. The Barmy Army is actually much admired out here, and dare i say even liked. They know how to bring some real life and cheer to an already brilliant event.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Calzaghe did have more behind his punches against Jones. I think his slapping had a lot to do with Hopkins' cageyness and bombproof defense. He knew before the first bell sounded that Hopkins was going to be one awkward customer to look good against. Thats why at times he simply threw as much as possible, as quickly as possible in Hopkins' direction. Jones always relied on movement at his peak as he was never a 'hands up' type of fighter. Calzaghe admitted himself before the fight that he needed more venom in his shots against Jones.

    I was impressed with Calzaghe. He dominated the fight after being knocked down early, yet again. That shows a hell of a lot confidence in himself to continue his gameplan and not get discouraged. He was dropped against Mitchell, but didn't go into his shell either.
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is true. I could not help but compare Jones' performance with that of Ray Robinson against Turpin.
    Obviously there were a number of differences between the two fights, but against a guy who gave Ray all sorts of problems, Ray with a horrible cut found a way to win.
    He had more in him than Jones did at this stage, but Jones was really at a loss to even begin to find a solution to his woes.
     
  6. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. In some ways though that lack of technical skill made him hard to figure out. He made moves nobody expected him to. His speed also intimidated people, speed and power... he had a similar effect on people to Don Curry before he imploded.

    After being hit from nowhere a couple of times the other guy started to think twice. And once that happens the fight is all but over.

    What I never saw was any mental fortitude. Jones was a front-runner both physically and mentally.
     
  7. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just to addd...

    This was not Holmes-Ali; Marciano-Louis; Jones-McCallum...

    This was 1 guy who was 36 beating another guy who was 39.

    Yes Jones has faded faster but Calzaghe deserves some credit for not fading so fast.
     
  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Calzaghe landed 120 jabs, according to compubox is a bad joke. He landed less than a dozen clean jabs the whole fight, even a blind man would count it better than did those supposed "professional" counters.
     
  9. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched it in super slow mo and counted 125 :good
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    With a magnifying glass?
     
  11. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who cares about compubox? It's a non-issue.
     
  12. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nope! :D

    I have a photographic memory, I can remember all 126 landed jabs
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A lot of people believe in the **** Compubox counts, so I thought I would comment on it.

    This "When I had him down, I had two plans, I couldn’t make up my mind. I wanted to go at him, and then I didn’t want to go at him.", Roy really needs to visit a psychiatrist, or quit the ring immediately, before it develops into Parkinson.
     
  14. Nemesis

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    do you really think he was hurt from the knockdown?

    Calzaghe went straight on the offensive after the KD, getting in some good flurries. he looked the complete opposite of stunned
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't drop like that if you are not seriously hurt. Calzaghe himself didn't deny he was hurt by the punch.