Classic Forum's Reaction to Mayweather's Retirement and ATG Status

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by acb, Jun 6, 2008.


  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You mean the way Floyd Mayweather could barely eak out a split decision over a far past his prime rusted 34 year old DLH? a prime oscar wins a unanimous decision over floyd.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Why do you say "rusted" ? I remember he gave Mayorga quite a beating in which he didn't look bad at all. His much reported training camp was no joke either. Ring rust was no factor whatsoever.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    He had one fight in 3 years, thats rust. no matter how you put it.
     
  4. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    There was not a lot more Floyd could have done in his career. Sure there are things he could still do, but if he's done he's done.

    He has missed around 3 fights that will forever keep his resume substantially lower than it could have been. Those missing fights include Freitas, Casamayor, and Cotto. Freitas and Casamayor were the only remaining fighters to prove himself against while he was at 130. Cotto would have been another chance to prove himself against a young, prime, undefeated fighter.
     
  5. birddog

    birddog Active Member Full Member

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    I think his retirement may hurt his legacy to an extent. One question would be how comfortable is he at 147. If he is comfortable at this weight and in his prime, then his retirement hurts his legacy, since the welterweight division is currently loaded with good fighters. Which he would be avoiding by retiring, thus hurting his legacy. Can he beat Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams etc. The risk factor is high.

    Or maybe he is pulling a retirement so he can cherry pick a few big money fights down the road. Or he's smart enough to know he has enough money (hopefully doesn't squander it), and wants to retire with his brain and body intact, so he doesn't end up like so many other fighters.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    He will be back. Mayweather has been upset many times before.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barely eeked out a decision = Outlanding Oscar by 200% and winning 9 rounds? Mayweather didnt even need to get out of third gear.

    Lets not forget Oscar was weighing 15lbs more than Mayweather on fight night. We're talking LaMotta-SRR Proportions, Oscar chose the ring, the gloves for both fighters (wanted Floyd to break his hands).
     
  8. McGrain

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    Yeah, the same "old De La Hoya" you've picked to beat Cotto. The best welterweight in the world then, fighting at a class above, by far the bigger man, and Mayweather fights as hard as he needs to on occasion anyway.

    I thought he won the fight clearly.

    Your insane bias towards fighters you love is more palatable when you are pretending you think Liston could beat Ali. When you're discussing active fighters it's just laughable.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    many share this same opinion


    oscar was old and past his prime, but could still fight. lets not make it out to be that was a prime oscar in there.


    many didnt, i had oscar losing by only 1 point.


    speak for yourself
     
  10. pugilist_boyd

    pugilist_boyd BUSTED UP PUG Full Member

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    Its Prob. Bull**** But If He Does Fight Oscar,hed Better Run Again,and Then Quit Before Cotto Or His Alltime Spot Will Slip A Notch
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    I'm with both you and Sal per the recent and still active fighters. IMO a lot of fighters, DLH, Hopkins at times, Mosley, Tito at times, Jones with many, PBF and quite a few others are a bit underrated on the whole over here. Obviously it goes with the territory a bit. It's nothing dreadful tho, like the ranting of the General forum per older era's. It's also just an opinion.
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ask me in a few years. I don't think he's done yet anyway.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He really said that? :lol:
     
  14. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    That means he was rusty for 3 years until he got back into training camp, back in the ring against a big name and back into training camp again after that. How many sparring sessions and fights does he need to lose the "rusted" label from you? Obviously over a 100.

    I remember you thought Oscar won the fight. Are you denying this?
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    My point is this - you're attacking Floyd's win over Oscar, implying he only just beat a ring rusty past prime fighter, then you turn around and call him the best Welterweight in the world, picking him to beat Cotto. If you are right, Mayweather struggled past one of the best five or six fighters in the world, 5 divisions north of his best. Amazing.

    If I am right he beat a past it fighter who was much bigger. Pretty good.

    You can't have it both ways depending upon how you feel, it's just bull****.

    You won't find any bias in any of my General Forum posts. I wanted Hopkins to beat Calzaghe but I picked Calzaghe to win "by close or split decision, and by 1 or 2 points on my card" which is exactly what happened. In Marquez-Pacquiao II, I picked Marquez, who is my favourite active fighter to win by SD, so fair enough I picked my favourite fighter and got it slightly wrong, but that one was so close it hardly matters.

    Your "speak for yourself" statement is actually meaningless.