Classic Forum's take on Jones vs Hopkins II

Some discussions and posters just aren't deserving of being taken seriously sometimes, Popkins. People love Roy, but what will it finally take for people to accept it's all over for him? He was knocked out by three fighters who, with all due respect to them, would have struggled to win a minute of any round against a 2002 Roy Jones Jr.

 

Honestly, I think I'm starting to get a reputation as an absolute **** on this website, because I have now spent days pissing on those who are so detached from reality that they (a) can't see that Roy Jones is shot so full of holes he is shortly going to be nothing but empty space, and (b) that the Hopkins-Jones fight was a ****ing shambolic disgrace that should never have been made and/or should have been boycotted by the fans. I just can't stop myself pursuing this issue though, I feel like the guy in Midnight Express when he's trapped in the ****ing loony bin. Roy Jones has been a walking corpse for 6 or 7 years now, yet his hollow victories over cherrypicked tomato cans are somehow still convincing people that he is not a husk. It blows the mind. If people could only open their eyes and see what the situation really is, then RJJ would have retired already because no-one would be paying to see him shuffle along pathetically as he is doing. It really makes you lose faith in the boxing community. Depressing.

 

I lost a tiny bit of respect for Bernard when he signed for the fight even after the Green diabolical. It seemed to me as if he was taken his opportunity to mangle and obliterate a once truly special fighter out of bitterness and jealously. I haven't seen the fight yet, but I've now lost even more respect for Bernard for what most journalists and fans have described as "shameful playacting and foul-play".

I know you're a big fan, but what a piece of ****.

 

My affection for B-Hop has taken a battering recently. I still love watching his fights, and I still rate him really highly, but signing to fight this version of Jones (coming off a 1st round TKO to ****ing Danny Green) was an almighty and unforgivable ***** move. ****ing disgusted to be honest. (I wrote a long reply to you on this subject in your 'Popkins' thread by the way)

 

Oh. I'll check it out now. I didn't know you replied.

 

Just had a look and I think you voiced what most objective and sensible fans of the sport have thought about the match-up since the day it was signed.

I guess I just have a hard time with how the sport works sometimes. I watched the post-fight presser for Joe Calzaghe vs Jones Junior again the other day, and I can imagine all of the reporters were biting their tongue. Joe was up there saying, "I'm overwhelmed", when he really should have just said, "Thanks for coming out, I was pleased with the result, I still have great respect for Roy, I wish this fight could have happened 7-8 years ago". Then get off the stage and **** off home. HBO should never have entertained the idea of showing a Jones Jr fight again after what happened against Johnson.

 

Exactly. Calzaghe's antics at the end of his fight with Jones made me sick to my stomach. You'd have thought it was the end of a Rocky film the way he was carrying on, as if he was in ecstasy at an all-time great achievement, when in reality he had just tormented and humiliated (and failed to stop) a corpse.

 

I agree. Absolutely pointless.

 

It's sickening. Calzaghe did what he had to do, but just handle yourself with dignity when all is said in done. He'd never showboated like a cocky **** like that in a fight before so why did he have to do it on that night against that opponent? Was he trying to make a point? If he was it was in real bad taste, and somewhere down the stretch I was almost willing Jones on to land another straight right on the Welshman's noggin'.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Jones announces another fight in the not so distant future. Beats a few nobodies, and then somehow, someway, for some obscure reason, he gets another chance on mainstream PPV to fight against a good fighter and he loses by knockout. They'll be plenty of delusional fans on this website picking Jones to make a stunning comeback leading up to the fight also, you can count on that.

It was sad too. I re-watched the Jones/Calzaghe fight again for reasons unknown to me and in between rounds Jones was heard saying. "I'm trying to get him but I can't get him". Desperation in his voice. Who would have thought.

 

You're so right. That's precisely what I've been campaigning against these last few days. I have a horrible feeling we are going to see Roy Jones Jr vs Evander Holyfield shortly... That is going to be a dark day for boxing. Still, at least it'll get the General excited. Seriously, you wouldn't believe some of the posts on my 'DO NOT BUY HOPKINS-JONES II!' thread last week. "How can you not want to see two ATGs going at it, it's going to be great!" + "yo a ****ing ***** wanting to take food off those two guys' tables, this is their life and you can't go trying to ruin their livelihood" etc... Seriously!!

 

He did in an early round against Bika from what I remember

I think you're both being a bit harsh against Hopkins, hes older at 45-46 now and getting close to Jones level of shotness imo, which is possibly why he play acted. Jones was a guaranteed big payday for Hopkins and it was probably his only winnable payday left

 

It's beggar's belief.

Bernard Hopkins seems to have finally lost it now also, but he'll probably carry on as well. I'm glad Haye has no intention on ever entertaining the idea of fighting Hopkins at Heavyweight, the Executioner would be on the receiving end of a brutal execution if that fight was ever made a reality.

 

Irrelevant. Still a pathetic demonstration of disrespect in my judgment.

Again, another post from you that I can't possibly make sense of. Hopkins hadn't been knocked out cold three times prior to signing the fight with Jones Jr, and he was still on most people's P4P lists. He should never have signed a contract to fight Roy, and I thought he'd have more respect for his old adversary than to possibly fake injury, and throw repeated fouls. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I'd rather use my energy to justify why it took Haye 9 rounds to stop Ruiz rather than why Hopkins would disgracee himself in front of a national audience like that.

 

A 220lbs peak Haye knocks out a 180lbs 45 year old shot B-Hop. To be honest, I can't think of a decent name I'd back Bernard to beat right now, not on the form of the Jones fight. I think even Glen Johnson would outwork and beat him, as Johnson's stamina looks to be holding up despite his age. Dawson would dominate B-Hop now.