Classic Forums Thoughts on Pac-DLH

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Just wanted the thoughts of my esteemed brethen.

    Me?

    I think it is a jive-ass sham of a fight and have no interest in it. DLH was relevant at some time, but that was a long time ago.
     
  2. Calroid

    Calroid Active Member Full Member

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    No interest......I think it is a complete mismatch.......but only time will tell.
     
  3. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    its just a mismatch, which assures ODLH a victory, and opens the door for a bout with Ricky Hatton... A low risk warm up bout... DLH vs Hatton will be announced in 2 weeks. Contracts will already be in place, and the finances will be mammoth. PLEASE QUOTE ME..............
     
  4. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope Pac kicks his golden arse. I don't dislike Oscar at all, but to me Oscar is purely in it for the money now and nothing more. It's all very cynical from his point of view.

    I hope it's competitive, but I just don't know...Oscar is naturally a lot bigger, despite being past his best. Then again, drugs have blurred the lines of what constitutes bigger these days.
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I don't think it's THAT bad a mismatch. I've seen betting odds between +180 and +160 for Pacquiao, in other words, he's no more than a 2:1 underdog. Since when is a 2:1 underdog a "mismatch"?

    Let's not forgot, in Hopkins' fight against Pavlik a month ago, Hopkins was a 4:1 underdog, i.e. that was twice the mismatch.

    And we all know how that one ended.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao is one of the few talented action oriented fighters in the sport. He has given the fans their monies worth, and as far as I can tell, ducked no one. I think he has a chance here for two reasons.

    1 ) Oscar to me is no longer a full time fighter, who thinks and acts like a fighter. Oscar is a playboy first, a promoter second, and a boxer only when the money is right.

    2 ) Styles! Oscar does not like to stand and trade, or be pressured, and Pacquaio can do that. I don't think Ocsar likes it to the body much.

    Having said that, I think Oscar's size will be too much here. We’ll see. I hope Ocsar doesn’t hold and play it safe vs a much smaller man to win.
     
  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think he can afford to. The boxing public will come down on him like a house of bricks if he does that.
     
  8. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    At this point of conversation.. the worst mismatch is the bikini top and the curvy tits... Gotta love the Asian gals.... Great pic.
     
  9. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Pontious, betting wise, it may not be considered a mismatch... Logically, I believe it a poors match up.
    I can not see DLH being troubled for any reason, other than a prophetically disgraceful oversight.... If it lasts into the 10th.. 12th rounds.. then MP can be graced with the championship goblet. Other than that, I see little else for ODLH to worry about.
     
  10. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar used to love to feast on smaller guys -Leija, Chavez, Paez, Molina... I remember criticizing him quite heavily for this penchant in the 90s. Then he stepped it up and fought Tito, then Shane, then Vargas, Bernard, and on it went ... he started really challenging himself. Let's be honest, though Oscar has been semi-retired since that loss to Trinidad in 1999. That's damn near a decade.

    Oscar is chomping at the bit. The size difference is considerable. He is looking down as far as he used to look on the dimuntitive opponents he feasted on when he was an active fighter. It must be nostalgic. Training at Big Bear, where his pro career began, is appropriate. He's a good but not great fighter, now, who's semi-retired, sleeps in silk pajamas, and fights for sh*ts and giggles.

    Now look at Manny Pacquaio. Manny is a great fighter -there's no doubt about that -you just don't embarass Barrera, compete like he did to take a disputed draw and decision against an inspired Marquez, and take a trilogy against Morales if you aren't a great fighter. He's in his prime and is deeply inspired. He's fighting for a poor country who has put their hopes and dreams on him... Sure, he's a full 4 inches shorter, yes, and Oscar still has a wicked left hook, and still looks very good against guys like Steve Forbes but Manny is murder inside, hits hard enough to get a WW's attention, and sets a pace that I don't expect a 35 year old De la Hoya to stay with. I don't care how hard the older man trains. Oscar is a tense fighter, he's officially a rich man (and I mean between the ears), a family man and a business man. He's as civilized a fighter as there has ever been. In other words, he doesn't have to fight anymore and knows that he's close to done. How many times does he discuss this in interviews?

    Manny is completely focused. He's honed. He also has great agility and flexibility -elasticity even. He's loose and he's having fun in there.

    Manny relishes battle. Oscar thinks about his wife.

    Freddie Roach may have a secret, or he may be bluffing. I have the feeling that what he knows is that Oscar doesn't have the passion anymore to fight Manny the way you have to in order to tame him. Marquez does, and that's why he will beat Manny if they meet again. But Oscar? Nah. I never liked Oscar against guys who he can't control or who control him. Everyone is hung up on the size difference. I'm not. They look a bit like Duran and Leonard on paper. I see Pacquiao fighting Oscar like Duran did Leonard -but Leonard was sharp and ready and 24 years old. Oscar, well, if he can't hurt Manny early, I think that the smaller man will take over.

    Good big men beat good smaller men, but not great smaller men. That's been proven enough to raise eyebrows. How great is Pacquiao? We'll find out tomorrow night.

    Pacquiao. TKO late.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is going to get his head jabbed off from round 1 to round 12.

    He'll have a few moments where he'll shake DLH up, but we know how good Oscar's chin is, so it won't mean ****.

    Boring ass 9-3 for Oscar.
     
  12. mcvey

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    I take Oscar by dec or late stoppage,he isnot what he was ,but still naturally substantially the bigger man.Manny versus Hatton makes more sense to me.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    I'm pretty certain that DLH will win, but judging on how Forbes managed to mark Oscar up, I'm hoping that Pacman can do more, irk DLH and either win on PTS or cuts.

    sadly, I don't think it's going to happen but I'm 100 % behind Pacqiuao.
     
  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I'm sure Roach and Pacman would've worked a lot at countering the jab. Hopefully the fight will be more interesting. Won't be totally shocked if it goes down the way you see it. :good
     
  15. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope Manny ko's Oscar but it doubtful. Oscar took the easy way out fighting a man so much smaller then himself even if he wins it adds little to his legacy he should have fought Margo but he knows he'll lose that. I used to be an Oscar fan by want to see him lose its better for the sport a new superstar will be born and a super fight with Hatton, Mayweather or even Marquez 3 can be made