Classic Forums Thoughts on Pac-DLH

Call-to-mind the U.S. hockey team -- and all of America -- leaping up 'n' down -- euphoric after humbling the unbeatable Soviet juggernaut in the '80 Olympics. That'll be polite compared to the Phillipines sinking into the Pacific under Pac's partying countrymen, if he pulls off the upset.

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I heard a theory in general that Hoya might take it easy, relatively speaking, on Pacquaio as to not be seen as a "bully" ruining his credibility and fan base.

And really, controversial decisions in DLH's career have always garnered more interest then the one sided fights, so who knows. I definitely wouldn't put it past Hoya not trying 100% if only for 5 or 6 rounds... But with DLH's nearly career long trend of gassing down the stretch that might be a tactially idiotic move.

I don't know, I've got a very gut feeling this isn't as cut and dry a match as it's being painted to be. Pacquaio's size is being brought up without any perspective... He's an Eastern fighter, notorious weight drainers in their own rights. Not to mention he began his career when he was... 14 years old I believe? Hardly a mature fighter at the earlier weights.

And David Diaz himself started his career as a welterweight, fighting above 140 pounds and there abouts. Huge fighter. You could really paint his last fight against Diaz as his first fight at welterweight or at the very least junior welterweight.

Eh. We'll see.

 

Also, the points on Hoya's appetite for fighting are appropriate. He's never been a "warrior" in there. I remember Vargas really roughing him up and he didn't like it one damned bit. Half a decade later with a more and more inactive Hoya who's lined his pockets and taken more to promoting then fighting...

Don't know. Tenacity and willpower can do a lot against a guy without the stomach for the fight business anymore. It isn't called the hardest game for nothing.

 

De La Hoya is finished. I knew the speed of Pacquaio would give him problems, and the southpaw stance. De La Hoya's never had a right hand, and thats what he needed tonight to have any kind of success. He just couldn't land the left hook at all. Pacman fought a very disciplined fight throughout. He turned De La Hoya all night, peppered him, even at times backing him up into a defensive shell.

De La Hoya looked and perfomed like a shot fighter. And he was robotic as he's ever been tonight.

 

Impressed! I thought what you wrote but, was not bold enough to say Pac via TKO.
How do you think Pac would have went against a younger hungrier Oscar?

 

Well, it was proved to be a mismatch. Great win for Manny, whatever shape Oscar was in the simple fact is that he was supposed to be too strong for Manny even at 147.

DLH stopped only once by B-Hop at MW. Pac put a worse beating on him than that. Of course, DLH is past it, but the simple fact is most people were saying Oscar, and, of course, 'a good big guy always beats a good little guy' lol.

Even if Oscar was shot, that was a vicious drubbing. DLH never won a single round and Manny did the one thing he wasn't supposed to be able to do, stop Oscar. It is still a great victory, no doubt.

 

Excellent call dpw417, Chinxd, and Stonehands89.

 

Spot on as usual

I haven't seen the fight so I can't comment, but all I can say is that if DLH was at the same level he was against Floyd, I am utterly shocked with this outcome.

If DLH deteriorated quite a bit, then this outcome is understandable.

I think I'll find the fact that DLH 'retired' pretty hard to swallow though, irrespective of how one-sided the fight was.

Congrats to all the boys that called it correctly by the way.

 

Looks like they found the antidote to the jab all right, and then some!

 

What a fantastic and confident prediction!

I tip my hat to the man with the crystal ball

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Really ?

 

Well jeez i wasnt going to but since you insisted, ok

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:verysadWow!!!

I've nothing to say but I never saw that coming at all.

I'm humbled to the MAX.

Congrats to the PACMAN

Complete and utter domination......

Nothing but respect.

P.S It was a complete mismatch......but not in the way that I was thinking :verysad

 

Just watched the fight.

Simply an outstanding performance by Pacquiao. Pure perfection. He did everything right and kudos to him, he deserves all the credit for taking this fight and accomplishing what he did.

That said, DLH looked like a pinata from about the fourth round on. His legs were indeed gone and he could not press forward on his left at all. Looked like a revolving statue with Manny moving around him, chiseling away at his masterpiece.

I'm a little disappointed in DLH from the perspective of the lack of pride that he showed. He simply went into survival mode and stopped trying to throw punches, which was rather cowardly I felt.

When I think of greats in the past when they've been shot, more often than not they have at least TRIED to make something happen, despite being done. DLH didn't show much heart here. He folded with a wimper, and really, it tarnishes his legacy for me a little. Just a little though, because obviously he's through.

As for Pac, I'm not sure he beats Hatton and he'd definitely be up against it if he fought the cream of the welterweight division, but I think he should try for Hatton and if that fails, take on Marquez again at lightweight.

 

Well I got it wrong!Alarm bells started to faintly ring when I saw Manny's condition at the weigh in ,but I assured myself Oscar had enough left to pull it out,pass me that CROW!