Classic opinions on Haye-Ruiz

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Does David Haye remind anyone of a lesser version of Charley Burley?

    I recently watched Burley vs smith II then Haye vs Valuev. And the way the littler man (Burley and Haye) kept it at long range, being elusive and coming in with hard punches, was similar.

    Even the way they stood, left hand low, and relied on footspeed and head movement.

    Then this fight reminded me of the articles that said Burley was abit more aggresive. Here Haye was busier and set counter traps for Ruiz to fall into and Haye would come in with hard punches but very little combinations.

    Sorry I have worded this terribly but you get my drift.
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Haye's "head movement" was no existent tonight. His trainer Adam Booth conceded that straight away in the post-fight interview.
    Haye was stopping Ruiz' jabs with his face, and those were painfully SLOW weak jabs, and Ruiz was getting in with far too many right hands, considering how slow and beaten up he was.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Unforgiven.

    I agree I felt Haye looked to be not concentrating and as a result his head movement was rubbish as he wasnt focussing entirely and looked to just be thinking about what he wanted to do.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think much of this match-up to be truthful, and in fact its only prolonging Haye's meeting with a true top heavyweight, which is just as detrimental to him, as it is to the sport. John Ruiz is 38 years of age, hasn't beaten a good fighter in years, and never really impressed fans much, even during his prime days which are long gone.. Haye stands to lose more in this fight than he has to gain..... If he loses, he's a bum..... If he barely squeaks out a decision, he's average........If he wins as a result of a controversial outcome, he's mediocre.... His only chance to gain any real respect in this fight, is to stop Haye early and in very destructive fashion, but given John's tendency to clinch and linger around, I don't think the odds stack up well in Haye's favor to win impressively...

    On a sidenote, I think its ridiculous that Ruiz is even getting a title shot after so many failed attempts and long periods of doing nothing... His only recent claim is NOT losing DECISIVELY which doesn't get many points from me.. He is about the equivalent of what Bert Cooper was in 1991 to Holyfield, only less and Evander was fighting Bert as a last minute replacement and not as an advertised title defense.
     
  5. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    You know the fights over right?
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    What happened?
     
  7. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Haye TKO 9 Ruiz
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Okay, Haye stopped him in 9.... My bad.... Disregard my post, except for the part where I said that Ruiz should not be given a shot
     
  9. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    No problem, I just wondered as you were still making a prediction :lol:

    It wasn't a bad fight to be fair, quite a few knockdowns (although, some were from shots round the back of the head)

    Ruiz was knocked down within 30 seconds of the first round but continued to press until his corner threw in the towel in round 9.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the info... The time frames for fights in the chicago land area aren't all that good, and sometimes we don't get a lot of the satelite fights at all anymore.. Thats cool though.. Haye won decisively apparently, and now its time for him to go after bigger fights..
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think Ruiz corner will throw in the towel around round 9. :yep

    If Haye fights either Klitschko like that he will be quickly stopped.
     
  12. Meast

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4TE1LwezHc[/ame]

    Round 1

    Great 1-2 to knock Ruiz down
     
  13. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Haye needs serious work.

    Has tons of flaws, and can never ever ever ever win a fight with Wlad backing up and playing counter-puncher. Not with his lack of head-movement and bad footwork and lack of fluidity with his movement.
     
  15. Meast

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    He does indeed, I think he's got potential to be very good but theres a lot to work on.

    I read a bit back that Haye does no road work at all, not good if he's planning on taking on Wlad or Vitali.