Classic thoughts on the JMM-PBF fight...

Marquez is being written off, hes a beautiful technical puncher, natural fighter, great jab and right and countering skills. He is from a sheer technical standpoint perhaps the best fighter Mayweather has faced. Defensively he often drops his right hand, which is a big weakness in his game.

Marquez is smaller but not by that much, they started 4lbs apart and at 1stage were at the same weight, height/reach is close and Mayweather is a smaller Welter. Marquez can hurt Mayweather by timing flush shots on the button with speed and precision that Mayweather won't be too used to and a flush shot from Marquez is better than missed/grazed shots from DLH/Hatton

We haven't seen Mayweather against a smaller weaker man in sometime, people will say Hatton but Hatton outweighed him on the night and is naturally stronger/stockier than FMJ. This may well mean FMJ walks JMM down and becomes far more offensive, JMM should have the power to gain Floyd's respect but I still would expect Floyd to be far more offensive than we are used to seeing, expect something similar to perhaps his Corley/Mitchell/Gatti/Corrales fights

Mayweather has been out for 2years just had his ribs broken in sparring. Mayweather will be rustier, older, slower with less stamina and movement. However his brittle hands and bad shoulder may have healed and this means he will be a bigger puncher than prior to his lay off.

In terms of styles Mayweather has the better speed and exploit JMM's defense frailties such as his tendency to drop his right hand, lead left hooks and check hooks will be the order of the day. JMM seems convinced Mayweather will be weak to the body and expect him to throw jabs and right hands to the body. Marquez's jab and 1-2 is the key weapon to try to neutralise Floyd's speed. Mayweather's faster feet and hands may well see him counter allot of JMMs jabs, 1-2s and lead rights. It is also hard to land a jab on FMJ, despite the myth DLH rarely landed that punch but Marquez is a sharper puncher and is harder to read than Oscar. The most similar opponent Marquez faced to FMJ is Norwood, who he lost too. He also had allot of trouble with the more skilled operators he faced like John, Casa and MAB. FMJ is better than the lot and JMM just doesn't have the skill to beat him even if the weight was equal.

Bottom line JMM will put up a good fight but Mayweather is the better boxer, with more speed and the better defense. He is also bigger and stronger and will rain clean shots and yes suprisingly big shots that JMM isn't used to taking and not in that quantity. JMM will have his moments and will land better shots than Hatton/DLH managed but less of them and Floyd will walk him down and stop him

FMJ by mid-rounds stoppage

 

When you look at Floyds opponents and Marquez opponents, the size difference is huge. Pac proved he can hang with the bigger men, but he's physically a lot stronger in my opinion, so thats really the only question I have about Marquez. Hes a good technical fighter, but is that good enough for a fighter like FLoyd? Hes not going to have a guy coming forward the entire time. Hes going to have to force the pace all the while trying to land on a very elusive target. Can he force enough of a high pace on Mayweather while taking a lot of clean counters in return? Floyds been off, but his style wont change much.

 

Because you have a smaller technically sound fighter, fighting a bigger stronger technically sound fighter with a good chin, great speed and excellent counterpunching ability.
I think the general consensus feels Floyd will be beaten by a guy who can just overwhelm him and outstrength him to negate his speed. Castillo kind of laid that out in the first fight, and ODLH to some extent. Just dont think JMM can do that.

 

Mayweather will win. Probably via late TKO.

 

Pontius, you're right about Mayweather's looks. I've stated for a while that I feel sorry for him, he is doomed for ugliness.

This is an interesting fight. Mayweather has all of the physical advantages, but I don't think that he can stand in front of Marquez. I believe Marquez will tear him apart up close. Marquez will jab, and attack, Mayweather's body to counter his shoulder roll defense. Mayweather may have success on the inside too, but I don't believe he can match Marquez' work rate. Mayweather is going to have to move to beat the smaller fighter.

 

Yes I do, but I still think thats really the only way to beat Floyd. Maybe Floyd came into that fight a little overconfident the first time and wasnt prepared to fight at a super fast paced, but it still laid a blueprint of how someone can beat Floyd. Hes too smart to be outboxed and outslicked. You saw Judah had a little success making Floyd lead a little but Floyd figured that out really quick.
Oscar just came at him and punched at anything he could. Hatton is just technically so poor, he was too easy to counterpunch for Floyd.

 

I remember someone talking about this fight at some point last year, and I praised Marquez a lot but also basically wrote him off. Both are counterpunchers with great technique, but Floyd has the faster hands and feet, better movement, a tight defense and a good chin. Therefore, it seemed to me that Marquez was beat because he would be going against an opponent whose best qualities were similar to his own, but who was better at it.

Now, I have my doubts.

There are a couple of reasons for that which include: Floyd doesn't seem as hungry as Marquez, the layoff, Floyd's injuries, (both the new ones and old ones like to his hands and shoulder) the possibility that Floyd is looking past Marquez/underestimating him, etc.

Also, the more I've studied Marquez' career the more I see that he has a tremendous talent for getting through tough defenses, he can find ways to counter speedy opponents, (as an aside, I think Marquez couldn't quite handle it when Pacquiao pushed his speed up to 100% and went absolutely balls out, but anything below that Marquez found a way to deal with and counter) he consistently throws with pinpoint accuracy, and, most importantly, he adapts to and finds weaknesses in whatever fighter he faces. (the only problem here is Floyd tends to do the same).

Mayweather should be favored and will most likely win, but Marquez is very much a live underdog and there is a very good chance Marquez that Marquez may outwork Mayweather and penetrate his defense, taking Mayweather into deep waters. Then it'll be up to Mayweather to see if he can still dig deep and find a way to win.

Another concern I have is about Marquez. I have a very strong feeling that Marquez only has one or two top notch fights left in him. I hope he still has that and more, but if he turns out to have less than that... maybe the Diaz fight would go down as his last great effort.

 

I think Marquez can shock the world! Will break it down closer to fight time.

 

Kind of hard to tell,

On one side, logic tells me that Mayweather should win. Too many physical advantages stacked on his side. And, let's face it, Mayweather also has the tecnical skills to deal with Marquez handily.

Sure, Marquez is a warrior and a very good fighter, but he is clearly the underdog here.

Perhaps, as some posters stated, Mayweather's skills and physical condition have declined enough to give Marquez an opportunity, but I am not betting my house on it

 

I think it may play out like PBF Vs enaro Hernandez.
Also imo Marquez has taken punishment in his career, and i feel it may be catching up to him.
In the Diaz fight he tooks alot of punches.

Imo Floyed shall win wide.

 

Yes, the only possible scenario I have for this fight is a big, at least a decisive decision victory for the ******* Mayweather..the only surprise in all this is if anyone makes a bid deal about this...what the hell else can happen in this fight...a knockdown for Mayweather? Actually I care so little for Mayweather that I'm rather disinterested in him and this fight...I'll only care about a fight with him in it when he fights Pacman.

 

Style-wise and weight-wise its Floyd's fight to lose.

Saying that, I'd love to see Marquez pull out the win. I just can't see how he can though.