Classic vs Modern. Aus Forum Only. You decide!

also MSTR post this thread in the Classic section then see what they have to say i bet its close to what im trying to get across.

Thats it is more about Era's in boxing than actually about then and now but even when you do make it about then and now now is alot more ****ed up than people think.
some examples

Danny Green vs Markus Beyer
Jermain Taylor vs Cory Spinks
Felix Sturm vs Oscar Dela Hoya
Erik Morales vs David Diaz
Should i go on.

 

Classic!!!! (except the modern day king of 122lbs....El Magnifico)

Its very hard to make a choice but i say the older guys hit harder but not as fast.

I make this comment because after seeing both shadow box, classic was all about power IMO.

 

In some case i agree that some could beat others from generations gone by. im not doubting that at all.

But what i do doubt is the Courage and Heart fighters have today compared to the past or even there killer instinct and determanation.

Like we look and disect Jermain Tayor against Spinks he showed me he had no heart was just punching enough to win rounds, (i think he averaged 15 punch's a round). Now if he was to do that against a Ray Robinson or LaMotta Tayor would get killed. One fight shows me what sort of Champ a person is and Tayor is a dud.

B-Hop on the other hand was great champ. and a true modern day fighter in every word of the sense.

Maybe its me just hating on how **** i think Taylor is.:yep :good

 

That was in reply to Boppa mate.

I suppose the difference is, if you get hurt, you can't say "hang on a sec" while you clear your head!

 

75% of classic boxers vs modern day boxers would win. They fought often with true grit and determination. They had more reason to fight. They are truely much harder men. They didnt have refs stopping fights on a cut eyes. They boxed in 6 and 8 oz horsehair gloves. They boxed out of their division when they had to. Could you imagine today's boxers trying to fight 19 times in one year that included 15rd fights like sugar ray robinson. Times have changed and todays fighters do well with whats around now but they cannot compete in my view with the old time fighters before the 70's and even 80's.
Regards
Dino Billinghurst

 

Don't kmow what rounds they would KO them but i agree with all the wins except one. Klit could not beat either Loius or the rock. He would go no more than 6rds at best.

 

the older fighters were better.....easy!

 

Sweet dig up Sally!

 

cheers ippy.

yes i think its a good discussion. considering there wre so many regitered boxers once, that fought for one title. now there are few register boxers, who are mostly old, and fight for a managery of titles.

mundine at 35 would have been slaughtered by his dad at the same age.

darcy, schooled in modern fighting would have murdered all comers.:good

 

I don't think the modern techiniques/training necessrily top the hard work and higher fight rate of the old days. As well as the general physical strength cited already, people were also mentally much tougher, most people these days are sooks. Everyone is encouraged to play the victim whenever they encounter an outcome they don't like.
Just look at the excuses presented by some fightersafter a loss, but also how easily a fighter is dismissed as a fraud as soon as they lose a bout, this creates a flucutating mentality rather than a steadfast mindset. The fluctuating mentality is much more prone to doubt, and once you doubt your effectiveness you're stuffed.