Clay-Liston I / Was it fixed?

so you have a picture of him with his arm strapped. more proof the fight was legit :good

 

No,,

More proof that the fight was a 'set-up'.

That was the excuse to use, to fool the public and low thinking moron's.

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Hey BillB is not a low-thinking-moron!

What proof for you have that the shoulder injury was faked?

 

All delusional haters feel free to vote `yes` atsch

 

Nobody listens to your shite... every time you have posted anything regarding Muhammad Ali it has nothing but hate written all over it, I don`t know what your problem is but your becoming all too predicable.

 

Whether Liston hurt his shoulder or not is irrelevant, if he didn`t hurt his shoulder then he quit because he knew he couldn`t win & used that as an excuse, not because the fight was fixed.

He certainly didn`t act like a man that was `supposed to lose` when he was trying witrh everything he had to take a blind Ali out in round 5.... that round alone should put to bed this complete nonsense.

The end !

 

speed kills as old sonny boy found out. the brown bomber called that opening round the best he had seen in years. maybe he was in on the fix too lol. liston quit b4 he was ko'd in the 8th

 

Nicely summed up Bill.

 

neither fight was fixed. noone has ever produced evidence regarding either fight being fixed

the end !

 

If Sonny Liston was such a 'valuable commodity',

Why then would his Manager, Jack Nilon just walk away from Sonny in 1964.

He couldn't sell Sonny's performance contract for a 'plug nickel', as there were
absolutely no takers.

Sonny had way too many 'debtors', and his personal contract was worth nothing.

The only way I-C-P could make money and keep it, was to promote fights, and
on paper they limited Sonny Liston's percentage in I-C-P to show only limited ownership,
despite being the Vice President in the corporation.

It was all about the money.

 

If you are going to take a dive, there is an easier way to do it then, you know, actually try to win and get beat up.

A young Ali kicked Liston's teeth in when they first tangled. Won almost every round. Why Sonny quit means nothing, the better fighter that night was obvious. He is, however, on record as claiming a hurt shoulder.

In the second fight, he got hit with a right hand. Whether it put him down, whether he fell down, whether he decided to go down, call it whatever you want, but the man DID stand and try to continue to fight, before it was called by the disgraceful refereeing of Walcott.

Those are the FACTS.

Bringing in anything else? Speculation. That's what they'd call it in the court of law.

 

"Circumstantial Evidence'

You can still be convicted on that.

As for the 'fix', nobody said that Sonny and Cassius were experts in the
'art of acting'.

This was Miami Beach, where 'wresting shows' were running 4-times a week.

And they packed the place, with believing spectators at every event.

 

# 1 of '64 was on the level.......:good

# 2 of '65 saw Liston take a dive.......:shock:

MR.BILLhat

 

BillB seems to know someting. Sonny looked like he was pulling his punches. I cant believe a fighter who killed FLOYD 2 TIMES ,mACHEN,fOLLEY hARRIS,vALDES WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT twice ADD BIg Cat 2 times to lst

 

Well BillB has presented documentation backing up the shoulder injury and has shown video evidence backing up Liston trying his hardest to coninue.

Billb thinks both are legitimate and he is right on the money :good