Clay vs Cooper 1963 - The between rds contraversy.

The film of the fight is edited, but as stated the live radio feed the BBC ran a few years back was not, and showed Ali (Clay) got about an extra ten seconds.

 

The reason Dundee lies and makes a big thing of it is to simply make himself look great and oh so important.

By exaggerating he makes out his wiles saved Ali's ass and what would Ali have ever done without such a great great trainer yada, yada.

It's just a case of someone blowing their own trumpet, and lying in order to do so i guess.

 

It was about 10 seconds, like TBooze has confirmed. He's a far more reliable source than Bill Butcher.

 

Guys,

I urge you to watch the ESPN classic marathons of the young Clay / Ali. In this program, you will see Dundee interview about the glove incident in the airport right after the fight. He said he sent someone back to the dressing room to look for a new glove, but none could be found, so they used the glove they had. It took a few minutes, not five seconds.
The Key point is Dundee could not spin or exaggerate something like this directly after the fight.

Dundee also used smelling salts to wake Ali. Up. Ali was out of it, and the smelling salts made him come to between rounds. You can see it on film. Ali's head jerks up and his eyes look like pin balls. Smelling salts of course are illegal in British boxing.

Abover and beyond this, Dundee jumps into the ring to escort a woozy Ali into hsi corner. This might be a rule violation, and it is one that has cost fighters DQ's in the past.

To say that Dundee broke the rules to aid Ali is a 110% correct. The fight could be ruled DQ loss for Ali. What we will never know for sure is how much the smelling salts, and the extra time aided Ali in recovery.

 

Harry Carpenter did a whole program on this incident thre years ago .
First. Dundee sent NO ONE back to the dressing room to look for gloves.
A B B B OC Official asked Nipper read to get another pair ,the gloves were not replaced.
Second .The BBC timed the extra time caused by the delay ,it was precisely 10 seconds ,as Carpenter confirmed on the programme.
Thirdly,Ali was up before the count of 3 and starting to walk to his corner,when Dundee grabbed him the bell had allready rung
You are talking your usual bollocks ,instead of the facts.

 

It is true. Ali got 5 or 6 seconds and no Ali wasn't going to get ko'd. Yes, he was hurt but he would have tied him up, moved and took whatever followed. Ali don't get ko'd!

 

You've been proven wrong by TBooze, accept it.

 

The radio 'live feed' provided by TBooze is more than enough evidence, not you counting "one one-thousand, two one-thousand......."