Cleaner ATG ever ?

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    I mean, basically everyone used some dirty trick here and there, some more some less than others...
    Duran liked to use his head a lot, Tyson used his elbow....

    It´s not because I love the guy, but I don´t remember Eder Jofre fighting dirty, nor Joe Louis....

    What are others ? Guys that have a clean sheet in terms of using only what boxing rules allow you to use...
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    It’s hard to tell with the footage but I think Emile Griffith and Jose Napoles both - even perhaps Monzon? But it’s been some time.
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Larry Holmes.
    I didn't notice that he boxed dirty.
    But they blame him for avoiding the best contenders during his reign.
    People will always find some fault; to every boxer.
    If we look at it that way - there is no clean ATG.
     
  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Magoo just told me, even though he said Larry maybe didn´t do that on purpose, that Larry used thumbs, and with a guy that used so well and so much his jab, I not sure if he wasnt on purpose..
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I know of only one occasion where an opponent ( Leroy Jones ) suffered a retina injury due to a thumb by Larry Holmes. Not sure if it was intentional or accidental. But that’s probably the closest thing to “ dirty “ that I know of about the Easton Assasin
     
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  6. 20thCenturyBox

    20thCenturyBox Member Full Member

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    I never heard ant complaints about Duke McKenzie.
     
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  7. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Monzon could use some rough tactics up close.
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I don’t know, I think “rough tactics” are just the way inside fighting is. Anything he did in particular you might be referring to?
     
  9. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    The usual. Holding and hitting, elbows for framing. But yeah it's part of inside fighting.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Holmes was renowned for thumbing, it stuck with him for years. Intentional or not he had a habit of throwing the jab with an open glove and it caught plenty of people in the eye socket.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Alexis Arguello would be the first name to come to mind personally.
     
  12. Scratch

    Scratch Active Member Full Member

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    Mike Dyson.
     
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  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Larry Holmes' nickname in the gym was 'Tom Thumb', so he's not to be considered here.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He sucked.
     
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  15. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch the 11th round of the first Armando Muniz fight and you'll immediately remove Napoles' name from your list for the amount of intentional low-blows he was firing.