Clenelos record isn't as impressive as fanboys think it is

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The pros is about damage. And Canelo inflicts pain on his opponents. Canelos style is the ultimate pro style.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Serge this is one of your best posts ever. I know you have problems with Canelo but at least you can separate your personal feelings for the man from his achivements and recognize the level of opposition. You are the voice of reason here, and if people won't listen to me, at least they should listen to you, because while you have no love for Canelo you can't deny what this man has achieved in the sport and the difficulty of what he is up against this Saturday. Win lose or draw against Bivol, no one is taking on these kinds of risks and daring to be great like Canelo, and that should be applauded. You don't have to like Canelo to recognize what he continues to do in the sport, and I appreciate what you're saying here. It needed to be said.
    I know you had to throw this in there, but it doesn't detract from the rest of this post.
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m a huge Charlo fan but Canelo just does everything better than him. Of course I would tune in but I’d much rather see the Benavidez fight. No one wants to see the Andrade fight lol. **** boo-boo.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah it's so bloody disrespectful to Bivol too. Jermallo has gone life and death against fighters Bivol would toy with and knock out and, as said, he's never even fought above 160.

    Benavidez is absolutely massive for 168 and is actually not just bigger than Bivol but a lot bigger than him. Jermallo should fight him if he wants the Clenelo fight. They've been going back and forth at each other for ages and it's an easy fight to make. Jermallo is massive for 160 too and will be at worst the same size as most SMWs when he moves up, not Benavidez size though. But he's shown nothing to suggest he can beat Benavidez yet let alone Clenelo.

    Neither has Boo Boo but to be fair he's one if not the most tricky and awkward boxers in the game and his resume is terrible so I can understand why he gets swerved.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks but it's not even close to being one of my best posts. It won't even be my best post of the day for goodness sake. It's a great post by everyone else's standards but a 1 or a 2 by my own :facepalm:
     
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  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "unmotivated AJ" i like how you assume this when he actually came across the opposite leading up to the fight. Unmotivated, yeah unlike Kovalev, Smith, Yildrim and Plant lmao.. Yeah totally no hypocrisy going on there "lacklustre performance" erm, actually many, including myself said this was one of the performances where AJ looked better than he had looked previously. Which is true, but Usyks skills were too much for him.
    Just like your boyfriend Canelo.
    Do you need me to remind you again? Do you want to go back and list those first 40 opponents of Canelo. They were old, cans and bums you absolute fool.
    Canelo fought 40 bums>stepped up to fight smaller Trout, very arguable loss >embarrassed by smaller 36 yo in Floyd, could barely land clean > clearly lost to Lara > after getting out boxed, KOd a 140lber in Khan whilst looking like he was 175lbs+> competitive fight with much smaller aged Cotto> two blatant robberies getting 8-4d by Golvokin on both occasions >mighty Rocky fielding > he 7-5d drained Jacobs (which you can easily argue a draw, no it wasn't wider Shadow) > fixed fights with Kovalev/Yildrim (or if you want to entertain the idea they werent fixed then Kovalev who was a complete shell of himself) > fixed fight with Smith & Plant (if you want again to entertain that they weren't fixed.. I think we know the context behind both fights. Evn you know this. You won't even mention it though, you'll ignore it as usual) > BJS win (competitive Chris Mannix had it 5-2 to Billy before the 8th as did many others) - we all know the context behind BJS as I have outlined again and again - 160lber, 3 years out from world level fights, looked trash last fights, gifted belt against Isufi.

    Usyks undisputed run at cruiser alone is better than that dodgy so called resume.

    Usyk is much more technical and skilled you raging fanboy. Why I am debating with you I don't know as you can't give an ounce of criticism to Canelo.. You're just a full on bot.. But I'll carry on anyway
    Lol again, refer back to my bit about his resume.
    Flashy. That's about it. And even then it's flashy punches to arms, elbows and hips.
    Above average cruiserweight. Lmao that is really downplaying his achievements you embarassing fool
    Crawford and Spence are nowhere near skilled as Usyk even with Usyk being heavier.
    Again all this dribble and you didn't answer my post as to whether Canelo has a fan friendly entertaining style. I gave my reasons why he doesn't. And hasn't had an entertaining fight with the exception of BJS since GGG 1 AND 2. You still standby Canelo being a fan friendly fighter and having entertaining fights?
    "Don't believe dumb rumours"
    -Believes inaccurate hair follicle testing and WBC increase Clen limits after testing positive. Again, thinking he is an inspiration to young children is quite a despicable thing to suggest
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said he's an inspiration to the young generation, meaning young up and coming fighters. But since you brought up young children who look up to him, and how that's "quite a dispicable thing to suggest", I'll take this opportunity to give you a serious wake up call :

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  8. IsaL

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    A lot of these Canelo haters seem to think that whoever lands the most punches, even if it's a couple more per round and mostly jabs is what wins you fights.
     
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  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot of you Canelo fans have no idea how to score rounds and what constitutes clean punching . Your buddy @Shadow here was constantly crediting Canelo for probing punches, inside glove slaps and grazing punches
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all no it's not more impressive nor is it his biggest win. Secondly Canelo dragged chinny 140lber Khan up two weight classes, was outboxed, until his power bailed him against a guy who was clocked by Garcia looping punches with his eyes closed
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again ignore it and reach for the stars all you like
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    In amateur boxing you tally the punches landed each round. The winner is the fighter who outlanded his opponent in more rounds.

    In prize fighting you score using the 10 point system. Landing a few more jabs doesn't mean you automatically win. Lol
     
  14. Scar

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    Yes, it was his biggest fight at the time and his biggest win to date. As disgraceful as it is, you are far too simple minded to see through the beyond obvious. Then again, I'm exchanging posts with someone that doesn't even realize he's comparing one of Alvarez' tune-ups with Golovkin's biggest win to date, which is tune-up quality at best. :lol:
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golvokin landed the cleaner punches outright in 8 rounds of both fights. Flashy inside glove slappy and punching elbows, arms < head snapping jabs