Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams vs David "The Terminator" Tua - Who would have won?

I can abide by this.

Tua had stretches of profound lack of motivation, that is for sure. I give it a 70-30 chance for Tua based on this factor. Were he properly motivated, that chance improves.

 

Rahman thing was clearly a balance issue anyway. I don't see why it's even being mentioned.

 

I could not agree more.

 

Tua let management issues effect his performances and has only recently got his act together with the right people.

Here is a clip of the Savon fight, it is clearly a very young Tua, he gets hit with a short right from Savon but it appears to be the accidental head butt that does more damage he takes it on the side of the face and obviously gets rocked by it. If people are questioning Tua's chin on this knockout they need to have a their heads examined.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja71FoZQrfY[/ame]

 

I mentioned Tua getting KO'd in response to a statement that people think his chin was undentable. What I said was anyone that was Ko'd in the amateurs can be KO'd in the Pro's Tua had solid amateur experience and was smart enough to know when to back off when hurt like he did vs Lewis. Tua had a very solid chin as a pro but also had some good defensive skills. I think if there was a way to lose to Williams would be to fall into his sometimes Lethargic state and lose on points but I have to say as an example in the Lewis fight he got hit early and did not press further than Lennox allowed for the remainder of the fight and was out-boxed, his will put in check and kept at bay

I still think Tua wins by KO but if I was to find a way Williams would win...that would be the scenario in my mind

 

Tua (circa Ruiz) hurts Williams midway through round 1..decks him at the end of the round, and finishes off a still wobbly Big Cat in the 2nd..a clean ko.

 

this tua hype is surreal.the guy didn't achieve this sort of respect via titles throughout his career, i have no idea why people see him as a H2H nightmare.

 

:deal This.

 

Tua kayoes Williams in the eighth round.That chin would help his survive some scary moments from Cleveland, and from the fifth round, David takes charge from there.

 

Tua by KO!

 

...and what did Williams ever do? At least Tua proved he had a great chin. He took bombs from Rahman x2, Izon, Maskaev, Ibeabuchi, Lewis, and others and never came close to being stopped.

He proved he could punch as well. He knocked out more quality fighters than Williams ever did.

We are talking about Willimas here... not Sonny Liston.

 

We have all seen the video, I know I have anyway. Dude, anybody can be knocked out... bottom line, Tua never was as a pro... not even close.

 

H ookie right on. Williams one WIN was vs.not prime Terrell!! Yes Tua could be out boxed ,his chin granite thou. Williams very overated. he kod Herring, jim Wiley ,King? Moore. NO no Tua 2 round ko, Williams just not caliber of David!!!!:happy

 

...Terrell did beat Williams by split-decision in the rematch. Williams KO7 in their first fight... by far Williams' best win. He also drew with Eddie Machen. What else did he do? Tua may get overrated by some but he really did do much more in his career than Williams ever did.

LKOby3 Satterfield (who weighed in at 176 1/2 Lbs), LKOby3 and LKOby2 Liston. He was down twice vs. Satterfield and three times vs. Liston.