Cleveland Williams vs. Jerry Quarry

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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  2. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Cleve certainly falls into the Lyle / Foster / Shavers good Hitter - not so good Chin catagory, that Jerry could Exploit, Mobility had a lot to do with it, Jerry could Outmanauvere this type and dictate when and where the exchanges took place, I must confess i am mightily impressed by Cleve, for 2 rounds against Liston 1st, - before the roof fell in, I think Jerry has the Skills and Mobility to Ride out Cleve's Early Storms, Then when Jerry starts to Hammer home the Combinations on Cleve later on, i can not see the rather Upright Cleve coming through it - It looks to me in my minds eye rather like a Mac Foster replay - as Cleve does not for me have Lyle's toughness to endure to the Final Bell.
     
  3. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Cat has two options IMO:
    1) Come out aggressively smokin' like he did against Liston, get Jerry into a slugging match and literally draw first blood.
    2) Sit back a bit and use that huge reach to box Quarry, who could be outboxed, and pick his shots.

    Obviously, the deeper the fight goes, the worse things get for Williams.
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Quarry feasted on fighters like Williams, although Williams is somewhat faster than, say, Lyle. Still, i'd go with Quarry by decision or TKO.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quarry by a 9th round tko. As ChrisPontius just said, heavyweights like Williams were Quarry's meat. It would have been an impressive showing for Jerry.
     
  6. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Quarry could win. Maybe by a KO. Possibly in the 7 and a half-th round...? Most likely on a Tuesday.
     
  7. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Quarry would beat Williams late, anywhere from 8th to 10th round.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Williams would have ended up like Mac Foster and Earnie Shavers...no different.
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I could see Williams maybe cutting Quarry up. He had the speed and power to do it. I think Quarry would probably knock him out though after a few rounds going in William's favor. I can see it going late and see Quarry countering him, and have the fight change with Quarry forcing a stoppage.
     
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  10. PowerPuncher

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    Quarry would just get battered, Cleveland is several levels about Lyle and Mac Foster.
     
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  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Who did Williams beat that is comparable to Quarry?
     
  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Cleveland williams is considered a good fighter because Ali and Liston both had career best performances in kicking his ass. He didn't beat good fighters; when he stepped up and fought good fighters they knocked him out. Mac Foster kod him twice. So did Al 'Blue' Lewis.
    Quarry would walk on him.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well he didn't but Quarry didn't beat anyone that comparable to Cleveland either. Yes he beat men who happened to be big black with a bit of a dig that were nowhere near as skilled, as quick, with nowhere near the shortness of Clevelands left hooks.
     
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