Cleveland Williams vs Leon Spinks

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Who wins?

  1. Williams KO/TKO

    63.0%
  2. Williams PTS

    7.4%
  3. Spinks KO/TKO

    14.8%
  4. Spinks PTS

    14.8%
  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
  2. Wladimir

    Wladimir Active Member Full Member

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    Spinks by decision.
     
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  3. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Williams takes his head off at some point.

    I don’t believe for a second Spinks beat Ali on the level.
     
  4. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    If it's the Leon who stopped Mercado, Big Cat's not prevailing there. Neon would be all over Cleve.
     
  5. Wladimir

    Wladimir Active Member Full Member

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    Leon's version against Mercado would won
    Leon's version against Ribalta would lose.
     
  6. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams clobbers him
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Williams flattens him. Spinks chin and style spells disaster for him.
     
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  8. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Watch Spinks vs Coetzeer. Just that Big Cleve does it with the left hook. There are heavyweights that could survive that left hook. Leon ain’t one of them.
     
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  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    There is a reason why Leon Spinks was moved so fast. He was that good. His record reads terrible but look at who he was fighting and where those guys were when he fought them.

    And there is a reason why Williams was moved so very much more slowly. If you look at this record and where the guys were when Williams fought them it’s like chalk and cheese to how Leon was moved. And this is entirely telling.

    For that reason you are not going to find a world champion Williams can beat.

    Prime Leon is far too busy for Williams. Cleveland won’t find room to get off before spinks bundles him through the ropes. Williams don’t have Ali’s chin. If there is a 3 knockdown rule it could end very early indeed.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Terrible even by your laughable standards.
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Williams had 27 fights against name fighters from a total of 94 fights spread over 21 years . So being very generous, from a 21 year career, that’s 75% of his record against non fighters. Take away the set ups. He went
    4-11-1 against the best guys.

    and he suffered two knockdowns against Satterfeild. Four knock downs against Foster. Four knockdowns against Liston. Three knockdowns against Ali. Two knockdowns against Al Jones. That’s 12 times he was hammered to the canvas against the best 13 men he fought.

    Try all you want, for all his muscles, you won’t find a world champion Williams can beat.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    This is a very winnable fight for Williams imo.
    The Cat stops him in 5
     
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  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, I know the reason. & it had nothing to do with Spinks’ ability.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    What was it if wasn’t ability?
     
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  15. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
     
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