Cleveland Williams vs Randall Tex Cobb

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  1. ray fritz

    ray fritz Member Full Member

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    Yes Tex was handful. who did Williams ever beat any way.Look at his first 20 opponets,Lamar Clark fought the same guys.Oh he beat Billy DANIELS.
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    My point exactly. Well done sir!
     
  3. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    Seriously? That was your exact point? That Williams' first 20 fights - the ones where he was a teenager - weren't against anyone special? That Lamar Clark fought the same guys? (no he didn't)

    Glad we got that cleared up.
     
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  4. ray fritz

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    HAHAHA Iwasnt being serious that was an example,teenager, lots boxer start as teens glad to clear u up
     
  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cobb's record sure has a ton of Jeff Shulberg type guys on there. He was never a big network fighter and his only consistent venue may have ben Tuesday night fights, on a limited basis. But it was a case of the opponent being the guy promoted and Tex getting the call as an opponent. And it wasn't as if he was part of the who needs this guy club. Everyone wanted a Cobb fight and opponents were not running away from him. And after that horrible Holmes fight, what network would want to pay the guy?
     
  6. choklab

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    The point being “who did Williams beat”. That was the point. That and this business of Billy Daniels being the signature win makes it rather odd that somebody on this thread has already said Williams was “a top 50 heavyweight ATG of the marquis of Queensbury era”
     
  7. SeanK

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    Williams UD
    I don’t understand why some think the contender would punch himself out like a novice.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well i'm glad you swallowed your own reasoning and convinced yourself.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Gee Thanks.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who did Cobb beat?lol
     
  11. mcvey

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    He sure never convinced me !
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Herbert Goldman ranks him the 22nd best heavyweight.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Herb Goldman ranked Williams as the #22 All-Time Heavyweight; Cleveland was inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame in 1997

    Anyone rank Tex Cobb in the top 100?lol
     
  14. choklab

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    Cleveland Williams must be the best puncher who never kayoed anybody of any note. I’m sorry but that’s just how it is. Check the record.
     
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  15. choklab

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    I certainly don’t think Tex Cobb deserves to be anywhere near a top 100 ATG. I do struggle with the criteria of Herbert to make Williams his astonishing #22 all time great. But who is Herbert when he’s at home?

    Cleveland certainly was an intresting contender, with an interesting story. He spanned the championship careers of Marciano, Liston, Ali and Joe Frazier. Perhaps it was a “thanks for the memories” inclusion?
     
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