Cleverly beats Hopkins

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  1. happydrinks

    happydrinks directfraction.storenvy.com Full Member

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    The Welsh Ricky Burns has yet to fight someone half as good as B-Hop. Leave off with this nonsense.
     
  2. Lil Niall

    Lil Niall Active Member Full Member

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    If Hopkins beats Calzaghe he beats Cleverly, who's a substandard tribute act!
     
  3. Hitmanfan

    Hitmanfan KO King Full Member

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    NO. I just wouldn't stake my house on it, Hops cant fight at a fast pace for 12 rounds, if Cleverly forced him into the trenches he could get a decision, I don't think that's crazy, I also don't think B-hop could stop a young hungry fully fledged light heavy like Clev.....
     
  4. Hitmanfan

    Hitmanfan KO King Full Member

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    Except you're forgetting 1 important thing troll..... Hopkins lost :patsch
    maybe you're as punch drunk as Toney :!::!::!::!: I'll let you off. :hi:
     
  5. jonnyP

    jonnyP Active Member Full Member

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    anyone who thinks cleverley could beat hopkins is crazy, although hopkins did look wobbly everytime he got hit clean cleverley isnt the man to end hopkins career, ive never rated bellew but after seeing cleverley last night i think bellew knocks him spark out
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Maybe you need to read my posts.

     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    You're talking like you can just go in there and throw 800 punches on auto-pilot. That absolutely ain't going to happen. The other guy effects your output, Hopkins particularly is a master of it.
     
  8. Hitmanfan

    Hitmanfan KO King Full Member

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    I agree, But I don't think Clev would fight in the same style he fought this Kuzmienski or whatever his name was, styles make fights and if Clev can stick to a gameplan like Calz and how Groves showed last night, I would give him every chance.
     
  9. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hopkins would have too much ring craft and experience for Cleverly, even at this late stage of his career. I think Hopkins would win by wide ud. Hopkins is a master at controlling pace and has an excellent defense, Cleverly wouldnt be able to get off.
     
  10. Hitmanfan

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    I was referring to this post .....:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl :patsch
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Except what is the gameplan? You're talking about 2 completely different tactics there, between what Groves did and what Calzaghe did.

    Whats this gameplan hes sticking to? At the moment Clev seems to have one tactic which is to negate his height, and throw any punch that comes into his mind for as long as the fight lasts. If he gets hit, he seems to just clown and then the red mist comes down if he gets hit again. He hasn't shown any great ability to stick to a gameplan, he just goes in there and does a Nathan Cleverly. Even if he did, Hopkins always has a gameplan and chances are its a far better one.
     
  12. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'd like to see Cleverly train with someone like Steward. Hes nearly 6'3 and yet he fights like a volume punching pressure fighter. He has a good jab, reach and good straight punches. He needs to utilise his natural girfts better.
     
  13. punchdrunkgench

    punchdrunkgench Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bhop would murder cleverly bhop is the most underrated fighter of our generation mainly due to his style and character at times
     
  14. Hitmanfan

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    I wasn't referring to the particular tactics of each fighter I was simply stating that if you stick to the tactics Hops can be beat and the underdog can win, as in the case of Groves-Degale. Tactics would be to swarm him make it a war, trade with him and tire him out down the strech ala Calzaghe.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Gotta remember though, as slip&counter coined the term, he has 'T-Rex arms'. Which is kind of true, his arms cover like half his body. So while he's tall, his reach is not exceptional I don't think. He's got odd dimensions.

    I think what he does is essentially okay, he's grown up admiring Calzaghe clearly and thats the style he digs. Going out there and throwing a ton of punches no matter what which does have its merits. He needs to just polish up a bit. The old footwork could be better, it doesn't compare to Calzaghe's and little things like pivoting and rolling with the punches could make his pressure style a lot more effective defensively. At the moment when he takes a punch, its inevitably a massive one.