Cleverly NEEDS to keep his right hand up otherwise he won't make it to the the top!!

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  1. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy is so open to a left hook when he comes it's ridiculous! I'm not slagging him off in any way as I'm a fan of his for sure, since developing real power I've always tuned in to watch him for every fight but against guys like Dawson, Pascal, Johnson and Cloud I'm afriad he'll get knocked out badly!

    That being said it wouldn't surprise me if he fought the pretty much unknown WBO or WBA holders in his next fight and beat them fairly easily the way he is.... but they are not exactly the best they?

    All his coach needs to work on in the gym is making sure when he leaps in he keeps that right hand by his jaw at all times and then, to me at least it would be realistic to think that he could become the top guy at light heavyweight one day soon.
     
  2. mryeags

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    Its a good job you posted that info mate ! .... otherwise Clev would never have made it this far and surely without you pointing out to his training team this fact he will never be world level :patsch
     
  3. 'Ben'

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    I didn't say he won't make it at world level, he is possibly world class already? but it's such an obvious flaw in such a good fighter.... I can't believe it isn't being sorted out. How many times did he get hit last saturday with clean lefts when there is no good reason why he should have been?

    It's not his team that makes him good, it's himself. They should just be fine tuning him for that step up.... which they don't seem to be doing as of yet.

    I can see why you're so uptaight about it though, wales is small place I guess.:yep
     
  4. PaddyD1983

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    I posted something similar, albeit not as specific, that he got hit far too much.

    I couldnt work out though whether it was because he knew the Italian couldnt punch and so left his right a little more cocked to get his shots off faster.

    I havent watched the fight recently, but I dont remember him getting caught as much against Fry?
     
  5. 'Ben'

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    Well Fry wasn't as good as the Italian (I can't remember his name either.:lol:) but he didn't have any power but as somebody with good boxing experience I've noticed this flaw in Cleverly for some time now. My mouth literally drawls when I see that opening!
     
  6. PaddyD1983

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    :lol:

    I just cant spell "Brancallion"?

    Correct?

    No?

    The Italian then.
     
  7. 'Ben'

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    Why are you asking me for? :?
     
  8. PaddyD1983

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    In all seriousness though, Fry was more awkward than the Italian. Not as good in terms of quality, but more difficult to figure out. I think Clev had this fella sussed inside of 2 minutes.

    If you've seen it in other fights then yes it's a concern, I just dont remember it being as obvious in previous outings.
     
  9. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once Cleverley boxes someone of ability who can jab and move who also has the ability to punch too it will be a very different show...:yep

    I think it is fantastic what Clev has acheived as a student and doing his boxing too...I think he will get a lot stronger when he goes full time but I don't want to expect things overnight to quickly...:yep
     
  10. 'Ben'

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    I remember thinking it the entire way through his fight with Fry. He did get caught by him more than he should have done too.
     
  11. PaddyD1983

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    I watched that with my eyes shut then :lol:

    It's been added to my growing list of fights I should rewatch!
     
  12. 'Ben'

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    Yeah, he sends out a really good message to the youngers out there going for a degree at university while being full time pro boxer.

    Hopefully when he can put all his energy into it after university, he'll lose that bad habbit.
     
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  14. 'Ben'

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    No. :nono
    Haye don't get hit alot, and for that matter Froch would not have been caught with left hooks like that from the level opposition Cleverly fought last saturday either.... who, by the way has made to the top in large part because of his abilty to absorb a good punch.

    The problem is when Cleverly drops his hands down almose to his belt line just when he leaps in for an attack, which can be timed relatively easily to be honest.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I think its kinda obvious he has defensive issues. It's mainly when he comes forward. Usually his guard is relatively tight but his transition to offense is pretty suspect. He doesn't move his head all that much which is one thing, if you have that flaw you really need to keep the punches compact and set the shots up, you can't afford wild swings which he does now and again.

    He'll get better, the lads a baby in boxing terms. His prime is probably 3 or 4 years away which is a great prospect.