Cleverly vs Jack

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  1. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Am surprised Clev is 7/2 to win excellent value. He has the size engine workrate to cause Jack problems. Key will be if he can get a good % of punches to land, as if he does he will win as those fur mentioned qualities will trouble Jack.
     
    moog, Aug 23, 2017
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  2. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Cleverly lost to Fonfara, a winnable fight but he fought stupid.
    He doesn't strike me as a guy with a high boxing IQ. Jack should win this handily.
     
    lewis gassed, Aug 23, 2017
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  3. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    It's surprising considering cleverly has a degree in mathematics
     
    anjawnaymiz, Aug 23, 2017
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  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't give Jack sh-t about this fight......................Cleverly just does not have any power to keep an aggressive fighter off him........................I guess he still throw a lot of punches, but...............
     
    Farmboxer, Aug 23, 2017
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  5. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Understand what your saying though Jack is a good all rounder he's not excellent in any areas and it is his first fight up at 175ib so I do not think his power will overly trouble Clev. Yes if he's getting hit all night but with Jacks style he's not hard to find and thst will suit Clev. It's a real 50/50 and genuinely fight that most interests me on the bill.
     
    moog, Aug 24, 2017
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  6. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    agreed. Jack is no mug beating Groves and drawing with degale, arguably the 2 best super middleweights. Will be interesting to see Cleverly back, first fight in nearly a year.
     
    Matt Petley, Aug 24, 2017
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  7. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    It's got all the ingredients to be a bit of a blood bath

    I think all that messing around with bellew and fighting at cruiser did no favours for clev.

    He was at one pointed being called the next calzaghe

    I think he's been handled badly and changing coaches and promoters didn't help

    I'd like to see him go on and win a few more titles as he can make it look so easy at times
     
    anjawnaymiz, Aug 24, 2017
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  8. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    he's a good fighter but will never be able to compete with the elite, kovalev crushed him and ward would box his head off, but still an exciting fighter and can compete with the best
     
    Matt Petley, Aug 24, 2017
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  9. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't see anyone out working clev, but Jack just seems to be on a roll at the minute while Clev was lucky to grab a belt.

    Jack UD
     
    zulander, Aug 24, 2017
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  10. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He needs to stick to his strengths which are a decent chin - despite the Kov stoppage.
    Great work rate, height, and stamina. He doesn't fight smart tho and his movement isn't all. hat but he has useful attributes he can use. It's an interesting fight.
     
    zulander, Aug 24, 2017
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  11. On_The_Ropes

    On_The_Ropes Active Member Full Member

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    Definitely favour Jack on points, part of me thinks this could be a bit of a war as both fighters have been in some decent fights recently. Hope this fight doesn't disappoint as it's the only competitive fight on the card!
     
    On_The_Ropes, Aug 24, 2017
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  12. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Cleverly nearly always has the height and reach advantage over his opponents yet loves walking forward and fighting on the inside, its great to watch but I just wish he would fight from the outside and counter. that jab is a great weapon but he doesn't use it enough
     
    anjawnaymiz, Aug 24, 2017
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  13. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I'm guessing academic qualities can go out the window a bit when you're getting punched in the face. The emotions and ego probably kick in.
     
    Twentyman, Aug 24, 2017
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  14. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    just a bit
     
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  15. Ilesey

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    Jack will most likely walk Clev down and grind out a wide UD.
     
    Ilesey, Aug 24, 2017
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