Clifford Etienne - Artist

What's your views on the Black Lives Matter protests in England? I've never seen so much rubbish in my life, pathetic and just another reason for the tree loving dole wallers to make the news.....

 

Oh without a doubt, it's the governments who are the real criminals. The likes of Merkel and her cronies should be hung for treason. It will get worse before it gets better but changes will happen over here in Europe. We were one of the first to leave the EU but we won't be the last.

Maybe the ones who rule are allowing these atrocities to be carried out so in the future we lose our basic freedom and free societies...

 

There are also civilian cameras corroborating he was unarmed and offering no threat.I'm not a police officer but I should have thought the command to stand still then walking up and cuffing him would have stopped this happening. He had his hands up at the car the helicopter camera confirms this.He might have been reaching for his driving license,given there were four or five armed officers with guns drawn on him I doubt he was going to "make a move" if you think that kind of reaction from a police officer is acceptable you're probably okay with the death squads of Nicaragua and more currently the Phillippines.

 

There are also civilian cameras corroborating he was unarmed and offering no threat.I'm not a police officer but I should have thought the command to stand still, then walking up and cuffing him would have stopped this happening. He had his hands up at the car the helicopter camera confirms this.He might have been reaching for his driving license,given there were four or five armed officers with guns drawn on him I doubt he was going to "make a move" if you think that kind of reaction from a police officer is acceptable you're probably okay with the death squads of Nicaragua and more currently the Phillippines

It's been confirmed he had his hands on the top of the vehicle when he was tasered and then shot.There was no weapon in his car.

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I'd say All Lives Matter!

 

Funny you mention the Phillippines, the President has urged the police and civilians to kill all drug dealers, great idea.......

 

Like I say I don't know enough about the case and looking at the video you posted I can't see enough to give an opinion either way. It's easy to say from the safety of your house what you would do but it's a whole new ball game when you're out and about in the vicinity of dangerous criminals.

 

The problem is who decides who is a drug dealer? The guy who lives next door to you that you had an argument with last week? You have some weird ideas about crime prevention. Duterte won't last another year,some one will pop him,he's just a thug.

 

What's a better prevention? Send them to prison for 8 weeks which these days is like going to Butlins for a little holiday.

Obama is a thug too, so was Bush, Blair etc..... they were dressed as a sheep that's all....

 

I detest drugs and dealers, one of my nephews committed suicide over heroin. But the problem arises when you give people carte blanche to do what they want, killing someone who may or may not be a dealer ,or user.That isn't law enforcement its anarchy led by mobs, condoned by a cabal of gangsters.
I've no time for either Bush or Blair, that is irrelevant anyway.

Half baked theories of government manipulation, what's next? The Jews run the world via control of the banks and media? 9/11 was a government conspiracy,an excuse to allow the authorities to pass more draconian laws?
I think we have strayed too far from the thread here. I've no interest in converting others to my opinions,and I've seen mob justice first hand in Asia, it isn't pretty, nor is it justice,let's just drop it and return to the thread.

 

I'm not aware of the protests. I haven't watched the news much in the last couple of years. It's pretty much the same thing every day.
I am aware for years blacks have been dying in police custody and a very disproportionate rate in the UK, it's a statistic no one denies, as far as I'm aware .. so maybe that's worth protesting about? On the other hand, I'm pretty sceptical of any movement that copies American models, especially when it comes to things surrounding race relations.
But each to their own. I wasn't even aware of it.
Personally I stay away from the police as much as possible but sometimes they will harrass anyway, and I'm glad they are not armed and trigger happy. Though I don't fancy getting tasered either.

 

Well, car jacking a family as a getaway method in an armed robbery demonstrates a poor skill level no matter what the quality of police opposition.

 

I agree with the second paragraph to a large extent but the idea that the EU set-up is to blame is rubbish, imo.
The EU isn't perfect, but the cartels and agencies that run things in this world exercise their power within and without it. The idea that leaving the EU is some step towards greater freedom or a better world is completely false.

 

I see, it might take centuries to learn whether he's the Aristarchus of Samos in the field of armed robbery or whether he's its Rick Dees ...
Plus he's already a good painter.

Shame about the chin.

 

What rubbish? What's pathetic about not wanting police officers to kill unarmed black people with impunity?

 

Ok, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Sorry Cliff.