[CLIP] Rocky Marciano was a refined boxer by the time he met Joe Louis in the ring

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Booo
    You've been selling us crap for two years.
    Gaslighting people and insulting them for conveying exactly what this thread conveys.

    You have no support in this thread, even from your faithful, so you're forced to somewhat agree with it.
    But you couldn't let your ego be hurt that bad. You had to take a shot at Louis, like a man who doesn't feel complete until he hurts something around him.

    You are a junk peddler.

    You sell junk opinions,
    you charge people their passion,
    and you profit in ego boosts.

    It's a scam boys.
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Well, Louis was considerably past his prime and losing his reflexes. Don't expect to see a 1935 Louis in there.
     
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  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You feeling ok?

    Marciano was solid in the footage you posted and apparently had a useful foil in the ring with him to exhibit those traits (for the seconds you posted, anyway). I still stand behind any criticisms of Marciano's form, mechanics and technique that I've made in the past though, and we've seen more than enough footage demonstrating these things. He's certainly not the technically flawless fighter you claim him to be.
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Refinement comes in many degrees and is only seen in relief of the opponent's abilities.
    Rocky had some tricks that flattered his physical assets and deficiencies, and spot on fighting instincts. These combined to beat the guys put in front of him, whatever you make of them.
     
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  5. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Love It!!!
     
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  6. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Archie Moore said it was like trying to fight an airplane propeller...
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    As far as fighting spirit, he may have had a few equals but no superiors. And that's the best compliment I can pay a boxer.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis called him a street brawler, both before and after their fight.
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    A warrior 100 %! Great champ ,great guy ,who ducked nobody .
    A refined boxer ? Never in a million lifetimes!
    "You know what I look like in there".Rocky Marciano the week of the Moore fight ,being interviewed by Daily Mirror boxing columnist Peter Wilson.
     
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    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "Rocky got to me by sheer bulldogging ruggedness" Archie Moore 1972 San Diego.
     
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    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "I couldn't avoid avoid those jabs I just had to take them." Marciano speaking to Peter Wilson a few days after the Louis fight.

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    Refined boxer?
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Goldman tightened him up but before any change he always asked Rocky if it felt natural. He didn' want to clean him up and lose his punch in the process.
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    He definitely wasn’t a refined boxer, but he had decent head movement, he bent well at the torso to slip and bob and weave in his crouch...
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Walcott could
     
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