[CLIPS] Marciano's big training camp steak dinners

Deontay Wilder ate cheesecake while standing on a scale for a weigh in.

 

Totally different quote than mine, got a source for that one by any chance?

Goldman said that Rocky would sneak bananas into his room, and hide them under the mattress. We’re not talking ice cream and chocolate here. Freakin healthy, wholesome bananas! Hid them, under his mattress!

I assume he was a stickler with his other fighters too. Can’t imagine why that wouldn’t be the case, but I can’t say that I know.

 

Golovkins diet:

https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.gq.com/story/gennady-golovkin-real-life-diet/amp

The sub-headline reads:
The Kazakh boxer eats a no-frills diet of steak, chicken, oatmeal, potatoes...and more steak.

 

Dago was right.

Golovkin:

I drink lots of water all day. Breakfast, I will have oatmeal, eggs and juice, all flavors. I will have a smoothie after working out with whole foods, no supplements or powders. Lunch, I will have grilled chicken, potatoes and a salad with ranch dressing. I will have another smoothie after the run. Dinner is steak, mixed vegetables and a potato. I eat until I am full.

Can anyone else hear Rocky salivating?

 

What are some of these weird ideas about diet? To this day science has almost nothing conclusive to say on the matter, unless we're discussing long term health and longevity, which is obviously a different a subject.

 

Ice cream and chocolate actually aren't any worse than bananas anyway. The biggest difference is the banana has potassium and vitamin c, but it's not as if the ice cream will do any more active harm than the banana if your calorie count for the day is pretty much the same. If your overall intake of calories and nutrients is the same, it doesn't matter in the slightest bit what individual foods it came from.

 

To be clear, do you or do you not intend to insinuate that steak and potatoes isn't the type of meal a top athlete should be consuming? Because frankly it's about as close to absolutely ideal as you could get.

 

It's extremely high in complete proteins and complex carbohydrates. By far the biggest concern for an athlete is seeing to it that you get enough quality protein, and it doesn't get any higher quality than animal proteins. After that, all you can do is see to it that you get sufficient vitamins and minerals without excess intake of sugar and/or fat, and the only way to really **** that up inadvertently is to eat too narrow a range of fruits and vegetables (which a modern person is far more likely to do).


That's literally everything science can currently tell you, with any warranted certainty, about how an athlete should eat.

As I'm fond of saying, science knows both far more and far less than most people think.

 

To be fair you left out the salad that Rocky had with his dinner out of your post.

My brother is a huge nutrition nut, and is in great shape. Yesterday he told me how he’s transitioning from lean meats to fatty meats. Supposedly if you regulate your portions a certain way, it’s better.

Who knows, this crap changes every week.
I’m personally waiting for AI to analyze my body and suggest me foods. Or even better yet, Nanobots in my bloodstream to regulate everything.

 

I don't think they knew as much about calorie intake and such like they do now ..

 

"Calorie intake" is a very broad subject. What do you think wasn't known that is now?

One of the (many) reasons there are countless fad diets -even if you filter out all those that don't have at least some quasi-scientific evidential support - is that there is so much individual variation in how people will respond to a given diet. Some do well well with a high fat, low crab diet; some the opposite; and some do best with roughly equal fat and carbs. The one constant is that you shouldn't go out of your way to cut your protein intake unless it's already exceptionally high (or you have a medical condition like kidney disease).

Not only is this subject almost impossible to study with genuine scientific rigor, I strongly suspect there just isn't that much to find out that would have any real pragmatic effect, even if we had perfect methods.

 

Two points here:

1)I'm stating very broad and conclusions that that no one study will address (although I guess we could start with a good meta-analysis)

2) I'm making mostly a negative claim about what hasn't been demonstrated, paring away unevidenced claims to leave only what is incontrovertible. Literally no one disputes that animal proteins provide all essential amino acids,
that a lack of complete protein will result in loss of muscle mass (at least) and that eating a reasonable variety of unprocessed produce is the best way to ensure you're getting sufficient vitamins and minerals.

The question is whether anyone has demonstrated that you can do anything beyond that to give you an edge as an athlete, and it's pretty damn clear they haven't. Or at best the burden of proof is on him who says otherwise.