Clottey has no business at welterweight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Quickhands21, Aug 3, 2008.


  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    This wouldn't be that hard to institute- just put a cap on how much difference of weight is allowed between the 2 fighters (say, 8-11 pounds)- this way you don't punish big WW's unless they're only fighting the smallest in the division. You don't even need to have same day weigh ins. In a case where big WW's were fighting each other, it wouldn't even be an issue.

    Then, every pound over that limit results in more $$ added to the smaller man's purse.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    In theory, that sounds like it might work like we'd want it to. But fighters will still drain themselves if they have to to the lower weight they wanted. It would just make more fighters fight being dehydrated. Which makes the brain more susceptible to damage. Which again is why they moved it to 24 hour weigh in, to allow the body to get re-hydrated.

    Think about it. If they can make 147 the day before, they would just go another day at that weight instead.

    There's no reason to think fighters will adjust to a weight maybe better suited for them by moving the weigh-in day.

    Judah weighing in at 143 says he should possibly move back to 140 and make a dime against Hatton and Paulie. Plus those are fights he'd be a live dog in. Can't say he'd beat any top 5 WW today.
     
  3. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It's a dumb idea because if you go to jr.middle for example you'll find plenty of light heavyweights. Go to middle and you'll find guys who can probably match cruiser. It goes on and on.

    Personally I'm fine with weigh ins before the day. Zab isn't stupid. He knows the guys he is stepping in with might outweigh him by 15-20lbs. He makes a conscious choice to do so anyways. It's his own fault.

    Same goes for any little guy who can cut and make a lower weight but refuses to do so.
     
  4. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i feel what you are saying, but you have to understand that just b/c a fighter puts on 15-20 lbs on fight day, that doesnt mean they have any advantage. if anything, it probably puts them at a huge disadvantage b/c they had to completely dehydrate themselves and lose muscle mass to make that weight. so that extra 15 lbs or so make actually make them very slugglish.
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The same day weight would kill this sport.

    Boxers will still fight at the weight they feel comfortable in. They'll continue to drain to make the same day weigh in. This makes them more subceptable to brain damage. As soon as there are significant rise in boxers going into coma after fights there will be legislation to ban boxing.

    Boxing is fine the way it is. it not only happens in boxing but all combat sport. It was put in place to protect the fighters.
     
  6. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow thats a really gay avatar..i know you lost a bet..but it wud be nice if we didnt have to look at that.please post when you remove that flaming **** lol.
     
  7. imp4pdabest

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    This is what I've been saying forever. Its like cheating to me, its very unfair. This needs to change, fighters need to weigh in on fight night and fight at their "natural" weight. Its just cheating. And I say it goes for Margo, Cotto, Williams, all those dudes. Those dudes dont wanna fight PBF at 147.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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    But sometimes it is. At the end of the day, if you're gonna call yourself a welter, you need to fight at and be a welter.
     
  9. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yup.Floyd and zab are legit welterweights.Clottey margo willams are not
     
  10. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clottey hasn't done anything wrong. He has not broken the rules.

    But the system of boxing is wrong. Some changes in the structure of the sport are needed.
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    Same day weigh-ins are a must for boxing's future. Think of Margarito or Williams v Judah, or think back to Kelly Pavlik v Gary Lockett. The weight difference on the night is huge in the same division, it isn't fair and the rules have to be changed. To say it would be dangerous as fighters would endanger themselves to make the weight- why would they do that knowing they would be putting their own lives in jeopardy, when they could just fight at the weight they are most comfortable at instead?
     
  12. imp4pdabest

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    You got ppl dehydrating and draining themselves just to get an edge over their opponent. Lol. Dudes fighting at 171 and calling themselves welters.
     
  13. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree 100%. I remember watching a lightweight match between Paul Spadafora and Billy Irwin a few years back and the size difference was like man vs. boy.
     
  14. imp4pdabest

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    hell yeah. its cheating basically. clottey set it off when he came in weighing 171.

    also, this is why oscar doesnt let them weigh him on fight night
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    :good