Clottey: "My Low KO Percentage And Fading Late In Fights Is Due To Cutting To 147"

cool... and your point?

weight classes were diffrent back then... there wasn't as many

 

my point is that even the greatest fighters sometimes fought for titles at catchweights when they were moving up in weight. So its stupid to knock on Pac for doing something that even the great Henry Armstrong needed to do.

In this thread I've spotted a few people saying that its dumb that Pac fought for a WW title at 145.

 

there were less weight classes then so the weightclasses covered a wider range of weight


it was diffrent back then

now theres weight classes so everyone can find the one best for them

 

Joshua Clottey is built like a machine, and you can tell the difference in size when him and Pacquaio stand side by side, not something that was necessarily true with Miguel Cotto. Does anyone here believe Clottey has the power to trouble Manny Pacquiao? I don't know, but it's the first time I've really been struck by the size disparity. Both Cotto and Hatton matched up well physically with Pacquiao at the conferences, I think Clottey is noticeably bigger here.

 

There's more weightclasses but the principle is exactlye the same.

Everyone can find a weightclass that's best for them. And the one that's best for Pac is 140. The one thats best for Cotto is 147. 145 is a fair compromise. Cotto has to drain 2 pounds extra, but Pacquiao is giving up 5 pounds in size.

The whole idea of the catchweight is that its a level playing field between fighters from 2 different divisions. If Pacquiao had fought Cotto at 147, he would be at a huge disadvantage. If Cotto fought Pacquiao at 140, he would be at a huge disadvantage. By fighting at 145, they are both at a disadvantage which evens out, and the better fighter wins.

 

now i think his trainer won't be coming to america with him due to visa, i'm wondering if clottey will even make the weight.

 

We're all sick of you having a Tommy tank over Manny. :tired

 

tbh I'm sick of talking about Pac too, but there is so much unjust criticism thrown his way that I feel that I have to explain the truth.

In fact I should just let the haters hate.

 

A dude refuses a drugs test, don't care who it is, there going to be under fire. Nothing unjust about it. Now..stop with your Tommy tanking.

 

If 147 is such a huge disadvantage for Pac (which I dont believe it is), then why isnt he asking for Clottey to come down?

Or did Pac grow from a natural jr to a full welter from november to march?

 

that dude is already taking the same drug tests as everyone else. There is no reason for him to be under fire for refusing a drug test that all the other boxers in Nevada are not taking. Anyone who can't realise that is probably just looking for a reason to discredit the guy out of some misplaced resentment.

 

Think of it this way:

If 147 is Pac's real weight, and 147 is Cotto's real weight, then the catchweight is the same disadvantage for both of them.

If Pac's real weight is 140, then 145 is a compromise for both him and Cotto.

There is no way you can say that 145 is a compromise for Cotto but not for Pac. It doesn't make any sense.

You can't have it both ways

 

He refused it for a reason, and it wasn't because he's scared of needles. :good Only those jaded by hero worship, such as yourself, would feel that's a legitimate excuse.

 

mate that still is a doube edged argument

you see one side

others will see the other side

 

if pac wanted the 147 title then he should have been the one compromising for the world champ, not the other way around....