Clottey .. no more than a gatekeeper

I'm not going to comment about whether Clottey should or could have made a greater effort to win the title because ultimately thats something that he will have to live with.

What did strike me about the fight and confirmed what I already thought is how easy Pac is to hit, every time Clottey threw he landed, especially the straight right....Floyd will hammer him in my opinion

 

glorified sparring session really. but understandable really. If clottey had have opened up and given him the opportunities, pac man would have run all over him. I credit clottey to a certain extent, but this was nothing more than a tune up for mayweather when it happens.

 

Can't see Floyd throwing much more.I felt the same but for Pac everytime Floyd coasted back to the ropes against Marquez. I thought 'a guy more accustomed to the weight would be hammering him now'. IMO he has the skills to beat Pac but not the intangibles. he's a guy who more than anyone is proof that nowadays, with numerous belts and weight classes, you can appear to be better than you actually are.

Pac is the old school fighter; he will win:yep

 

There.

We finally have it!

 

Old school in terms of his attitude. The guy fights regularly and ducks no one.

he doesn't have an old school 'style', if anything I'd say Floyd is more reminiscent of the older figthers:good

If you're sugesting some kinda' bias; nope. Floyd is just massively overrated and given a free pass for his, for his unbelievable skills, shoddy resume.

I must stress IN MY OPINION :good we will see when Pac beats seven shades of **** out of him.

 

Beeston,y ou agree with me that multiple belts and weight classes allow certain fighters to manouver themselves away from certain challenges. I can't see how Pac can be accused of this?

 

After round 3-4 when he realised that he could finish Marquez anytime he wanted Floyd coasted, simple as that. If Pac shows the same propensity for catching the straight lead right against Floyd as he did against Clottey then he is in for a whole heap of pain...I would go as far as to say that Floyds laser right hand stops him

 

I don't blame the multiple weight classes as much as the many belts. They make weight hopping seem much easier than it really is.

 

Yeah, that's the main problem.

I don't see this whole 'Floyd coasting when we realises he can win' thing to be honest, as Icemax thinks.

I also think that Pac is durable enough to keep coming. For a man of Floyds intracacies, that we are all aware of, does no one see him getting startled???

 

Its plain to see, he slots Marquez who looks on the verge of going, Floyd half smiled and didn't dive in...why should he, he needed the rounds and Marquez wasn't a risk.

Anyways, unless Pac can get by this drugs testing stuff this fight ain't happening

 

The Marquez fight I'll let you have. But what of his other lackluster performances? All of which have happened as he's moved up.

Agree with the testing issue. If the fight doesn't come off however, it's Floyd whos resume suffers IMO. Not enough quality on there for him to be considered top 50 alltime fighter IMO :good

 

What the hell was Jim Lampley doing in round 8? "Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!"

 

Agreed; cringe worthy.

 

I blame belts more so than weight classes.

Certainly plenty of fighters have hidden behind a title (especially WBO & WBA) and fought their mandatories..... in between picking the best style matchup out of the top 15/someone that is old/dead at the weight.

Pacquiao certainly chose Diaz as a bit of a body to warm up on, testing the water above 130 - as an alternative to taking on Marquez for a 3rd time.

If you want to be really harsh (as Ian Darke kinda hinted at) you could say that Pac has been cherry picking since then..... DLH was a corpse at 147, Hatton mentally ****ed, Cotto damaged goods, Clottey doesn't throw enough etc etc - but I don't really read too much into that. If he'd taken on a beltholder at 140 he'd only have been accused of ducking ''the man'' in the division in favour of shiny silverware.

I'm not so sure a fighter can hide in a weight class as much - you are bound to come unstuck trying to make a weight for too long, or lose your main advantages moving up...... I'd applaud a fighter for moving up in weight class so long as he takes the better challenges.

The problem these days is that you can hop up in weight, win a ''world title'' against a fighter that wouldn't be in a consensus top 10, then move back down and do the same thing. Beating ''the man'' in each class is obviously much harder.

In terms of Mayweather vs Pacquiao I subscribe to Icemax's view that if he shows the same inability to avoid right hands he's gonna end up in a mess - Floyd probably doesn't much as hard as Clottey but is clearly more accurate and has a superior sense of timing.

 

But surely THAT works both ways; that Pacs busyness will see Floyds defence not look that impenetrable.

As I say, amazing figth because of the styles clash. But trying to put some kinda' 'old fighter' bias onto me because I'm picking a modernf ighter is oddStyles wise its close but I was just stating that Pac is the more PROVEN fighter because of his ethic and opposition. Hence I feel more inclined to pick him to pull it off :good