Clottey won't beat Margo in a rematch.

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Clottey knows what he has to do to beat Margarito and will do it in the rematch.

    It was Clottey with the advantage and the set back in the fight, not Margarito.
     
  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Get out of my thread.
     
  3. Boxing Ace

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    Clottey does only fight 1 way as a defensive counter-puncher, but he did make an interesting adjustment to Judah. He said he learned from the Mayweather fight that Judah could be hit with the lead straight right and he utilized this repeatedly against Judah which is the biggest reason Judah's face was so racked up. I do think if Clottey would have focused on Judah's body more (namely the left hook downstairs), he would have gotten a stoppage by the 9th round. He went with a different strategy that still worked but made the fight more competitive.

    Also, if you re-watch their first fight, you will see Clottey telling his corner early (rd 4 or 5) that his left hand was badly hurt. This is far before Margarito started to land much of anything significant to the body or elsewhere. This being said, I seriously doubt that Clottey was feeling hard punches and pressure from Margarito and decided to fake an injury.

    I do not put a lot into the talk of Margarito's injury or long layoff because the guy threw over 1600 punches! If he was so rusty and injured then I kind of doubt that he would have had this kind of output.

    All I know is that Clottey was dominating him with his left hand to the body and head, then he says his left hand is badly hurt, stops throwing the left for most of the rest of the fight and loses a decision to a guy who throws 1600 punches at him. At the end of the fight, Clottey's face showed little sign of being hit at all. I do not think Margarito will find him suddenly much easier to hit if they have a rematch. If Clottey keeps his workrate up and doesn't throw away rounds, I give him the edge to beat Margarito.
     
  4. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I see a whole lot of IFs in your statement, and not a lot of DOES.

    Clottey may IF, but Margarito DOES.
     
  5. Tuavale

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    :good :good
     
  6. Boxing Ace

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    I see a lot of you not being able to refute what I said about their first fight. One of my ifs that you refer to is " if you would re-watch" their first fight. Let me re-word this for you: You really need to re-watch their first fight. This may help jog your memory a little bit.

    I am sure you will come back at this with expletives, but try and control yourself and refute my points, not unleash verbal diarrhea.

    Regardless, I guarantee Margarito is not very excited about fighting Clottey again, regardless of how big or little the payout would be and I don't think many people like the prospect of fighting Margarito (except Paul Williams).
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I already refuted your ass. Now you're just acting like a mother ****er who spends his time asking people if they eat grey poupon.

    I already refuted you and watched the fight several times. Obviously your opinion is based on what ifs. Because Clottey was injured, but what if he wasn't?

    What if Clottey didn't run out of gas?

    What if Clottey adjusted?

    What if Clottey didn't get outhrown 20 punches to 1 in the fifth round?

    What if Clottey wasn't thrown off his game so bad by Margarito in the fifth that he had to come out boxing and looked totally out of his element?

    What if Clottey was smarter and threw more right uppercuts that he was landing in round 7 and 8 when Margo was coming in clumsily with a right hand, yet still lost the rounds?

    What if Clottey wasn't still throwing tripple left hook combinations in the 10th round, yet his LEFT hand was so ****ed up it was broken, yet X-rays showed there were no fractures.

    What if Clottey didn't back up into a corner like Cotto did and take a beating for a minute to a minute and a half?

    Maybe it was cuz of bodywork, but what if Margarito had no arms, then Clottey wouldn't have gotten hit to the body and would have lost.

    Man, don't tell me to watch the fight again when clearly you didn't get enough out of it the first time. I see everything, not just what I want to see.

    And I don't have favorite fighters, but I understand weakness and strengths. Clottey might be your favorite fighter, but he definitely wasn't itchin for a re-match, and **** Margarito wasn't either, but why would he?

    He won the fight clearly.

    If they ever fight again, perhaps Clottey will win if one of those what if's come to life.

    Fact is though, Clottey is a musclebound fighter and musclebound fighters tend to fade in the late rounds.

    Proof was in the fact that Clottey tore a muscle against Judah and gets injured quite a bit, AND always fades in the late rounds.

    So damn............maybe you oughta start training Clottey instead of bein a ***** ass on a message board.
     
  8. Scar

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    Going to pick Margarito by UD this time.
     
  9. Boxing Ace

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    Here comes the classic frustrated rant. It comes down to this, Clottey doesn't hurt his left hand, he wins. There are no other ifs about Clottey/Margarito. You haven't refuted ****. Clottey isn't even close to my favorite fighter, but Margarito is even further down the list. Margarito is a taller Baldomir with power. Maybe you should take Margarito's dick out of your mouth and try and be a little objective about him. Without his granite chin he would be a journeyman with 15 loses by now. Using your chin as defense is not very skillful. If you don't want people to respond to your threads with intelligent analysis, then get off the forums, sit your ass back down on your couch and keep jerking off to your favorite Margarito fights.
     
  10. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what are you stupid? marg not that dumb to not learn from their first fight? dude, pay attention, marg has one style AND ONE STYLE ONLY THAT HE CANNOT CHANGE DUE TO THE FACE THE MAN HAS NO FINESSE IN THERE. So he has no choice but to use the same gamplean from the first fight in which he was getting owned. And clottey had one hand the 2nd half of the fight. You need to watch more boxing man.
     
  11. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bull**** with the marg injuries, him and his butt buddy bob arum fabricated that whole cockamamie bull**** to save face to the fact that they almost lost to a dude who had one hand. If he was injured, as in really injured, why was he throwing with both hands like everything was fine? cmon freddy you know that **** was bull****.
     
  12. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    One hand and an empty gas tank. :yep
     
  13. executive

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    I think if you can use that injury in a case for margarito. You have to be durable in boxing when you are getting hit and when you are hitting someone. If he's not durable enough to hit Margarito and injures his hand on Margarito's head than that's a bad sign for Clottey and who knows maybe he injures himself if they ever rematch. It's not a good idea to say if somebody doesn't injure their hand they would win. That's kind of like saying if my fighter didn't get hit in the jaw and knocked out he would win. It happened and he lost.
     
  14. BITCH ASS

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    Another dumbass that never boxed a day in his life that just started watching boxing when Floyd fought De La Hoya talking about some grey poupon.

    What's funny is that I don't even really like Margarito, he doesn't hit hard enough, but I respect him.

    He's hard as ****.

    And I just refuted everything you said, you had no answer for why Clottey did what he did except for he was injured when he didn't break his hand.

    Obviously you never boxed, cuz you can get over that **** if you got to for a 30 minute fight.

    So stop bein a *****, and get out there, then come back to me.
     
  15. Boxing Ace

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    Don't believe you have to have been a boxer to be a good boxing analyst and huge fan of the sport. I don't think John Clayton of ESPN ever played football, but he is very well respected as a football analyst and commentator. Conversely, there are many many boxers who don't know **** about boxing. Maybe you took a few too many shots to the head if you really did box. Were you a journeyman or just a club fighter? By the way, I have been watching boxing since Sugar Ray Leonard fought Roberto Duran in the "No Mas Fight". Sorry you can't handle the fact that someone disagrees with your opinion, but I am not some newbie to the sport.