CMV: I think Usyk beats any version of Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MorningSage, Jan 23, 2025.

  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can appreciate logical and consistent arguments for why they believe what they do even if they disagree with me, clearly you aren't intelligent enough to present such arguments. So bye!
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Loak's is on your side. He's subtly highlighting what a dumbo the other guy is.
     
  3. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a dumbo for actually being able to defend my arguments on a fourm made for debating and arguing... amazing logic
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    You sell yourself ohhhhhhhhhh so short my man.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guess I can't expect much from idiots oh well
     
  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Always fun to have another idiot in these forms rely brings down the collective intelligence on display (not that it's a high bar anyway)
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah man it's not you, it's everyone else in here.

    Oh well.
     
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  9. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not everyone just certain people who argue entirely based on vibes, nostalgia and feelings rather then actual logical reasoning
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Translated that means anyone that disagrees with you.
     
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  11. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No I'm fine with disagreement as long as it has a logical basis and people can give good consistent arguments for why they believe what they do. Most discussions on this forms end up coming down to subjective interpretation, so if different people have different subjective interpretation of the same thing that's understandable.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    You seldom if ever provide any of this which is why numerous posters have already walked away, including DP yesterday and the resident Pug days prior.
     
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  13. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I always give both show me a single example when i don't. The only people who walk away are those who can't defend their own points or get angry when I point out why they're wrong.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're so arrogant it's actually so cringe you aren't proving "anyone wrong" people just have better things to do with their time than argue with someone that likes the sound of their own voice and waffles on for page after page.

    Get a hint that maybe just maybe it's a "you" problem which is why you get into so many long winded conversations that go nowhere and clash with most people on here. You just disagree for the sake of disagreeing and like to waste peoples time and get under their skin you aren't proving any points you just like to be problematic.

    You're trying to win debates and prove people wrong all the time and that in itself shows your arrogance and quite frankly it's sad.
     
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  15. PunishingJab

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    lol a big oaf like Chisora swinging from the other side of the ring stuck it on Usyk and was winning rounds…

    I don’t care much for Ali, he often lacked focus and conditioning, and the man’s style is not particularly entertaining aside from a few great fights…

    But the Ali who came in the first Liston fight looks levels above anyone as a boxing talent… literally untouchable.

    Liston was a top boxer and couldn’t lay a glove on him… you talk about boxing talent but no way would Ali be getting walked down by a no hoper like chisora.

    And it’s a total embarrassment that he could not stop the guy either… he stood right in front of him begging to be nailed… I couldn’t imagine in a million years Chisora going the distance with someone like Holmes… similarly underpowered but a much tougher meaner man.