CMV: I think Usyk beats any version of Ali

Joe caused him huge issues in all 3 fights.

If they'd have fought 10 times, then Joe would have caused him huge issues in all 10 fights.

It was just a bad stylistic match up for Ali.

And it would have been a tough stylistic fight for Usyk too, as Usyk is a technican with limited power.

Unfortunately, you can't comprehend this.

Because you can only see that Frazier was much smaller than the bigger guys who Usyk beat.

 

It absolutely was not.

He beat him comfortably in the first fight, where he almost stopped him.

The second fight was close, but Usyk still won clearly.

Whereas the Breidis fight was very close.

Just go back and watch the fight.

 

Usyk won the first Fury fight by a single point on one card.

 

He isn't a pressure fighter like Frazier.

A pressure fighting swarmer, who fought super aggressively, in 5th gear in every fight.

Usyk can pressure guys.

But he isn't a full on pressure fighter.

Other posters have already told you this before.

 

To say Usyk has limited power is wrong he has more power then most of the guys Frazier beat

 

You believe that?

 

Not all pressure fighters are swarmers

 

Around and around we go.


AT HW, he has LIMITED power.

That isn't even up for debate.


He has respectable power like Ali.

But not huge power.


How can this even be disputed?


The point is:

He hasn't got the power to have stopped guys like Tyson and Frazier from swarming him.

 

Both fights were close but Breidis never had as much sustained success against Usyk as Fury did plus there were more close rounds in the Fury fight

 

There's nothing to believe. It's the score. Your personal tally counts for zero.

 

He certainly seems to put mental pressure on his opponents. Just their anticipation of getting countered seems like an immense pressure

 

Stop twisting my words.

Yes.

I was making a comparison to Frazier.

 

Why not i disagree that's a debate you're not the authority on what can and can't be debated

 

I had it 6-6 in rounds as well (hot take sure) but I gave Uysk R9 a 10-7 because he nearly knocked Fury out and completely battered him. So it's still hard to call it the toughest fight Uysk had for that reason it's still Breidis for me.

 

By any metric, the Breidis fight was harder.