Coffee and Toast

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Nigel_Benn, Jun 24, 2008.


  1. boxingtactics07

    boxingtactics07 Active Member Full Member

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    a little bit of caffeine (a cup worth) in the morning will not hurt you (just refrain from using it later in the afternoon and at night). As long as the majority of your diet is clean and you keep your self in shape year-round, you will be fine. If you end up having a little butter on your toast, some A1 sauce with your steak, and some margarine on your baked potato... it's not the end of the world. If you have to keep the weight down, then cut that all out. Even then on a low-calorie diet, you still need some good FAT like peanut butter.
     
  2. dwilson

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    I am English and can not do without regular cups of tea.

    I am in good fitness and trying to get fitter although a current knee injury has forced me out of training for a month (hoping to start again next week if it holds up). I have a good diet but I can not stay away from tea, I do not eat biscuits though, apart from at the moment :-( .



    I am a big fan of wholemeal bread with all the seeds and nuts in but keep this part of my diet down to weekend treats.
     
  3. MrSmall

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    Cream >>>>>>>>>> sugar.
    Cream is good for you.
    Will help him keep the weight off.
     
  4. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Nothign wrong with a bit of bread.
    And the British Empire was built on cuts of tea, no worries.
    Just have proper full fat milk, don't have too much sugar or too regularly, and save your bread till post workout.

    Think of it this way.
    Have non-processed carbohydrates only post workout, after you've exercises.
    Processed carbohydrates like cereal, biscuits, have once a week only at best.
    And I don't mean one day cereal one day biscuits, one day one mini-meal for anything you fancy.
     
  5. amy

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    No it won't. It's full of fat and very high in calories. Neither are good for keeping your weight down.
     
  6. MrSmall

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    The body will release what it has in abundant supply.
    Feed it fat and it will learn to use its own fat better for fuel and not hang on to it.
    Fat (and especially animal fat such as cream) regulates hormone production (including testosterone) and optimised hormonal output leads to better body composition - lots of skinny fat (or just plain fat) guys have high estrogen levels.
    Fat also has a satiating effect which keeps hunger down and eliminates unnecessary snacking.
    Cream itself is high in lysine which is anabolic, the old school bbers swore by their heavy cream (and raw eggs and high fat diets in general) and they were the epitome of leanness.
    Lastly, calories are NOT the be all and end all of weight loss - but that's another story.

    *beats Amy to the ground*
     
  7. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    You could try water. That's what I drink. Also, strawberries.
     
  8. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    toast and beure is not good.


    coffee i think is a marvelous invention. straight dark shot of coffee. it's only bad for you becuase it can slightly dehydrate you...but your drinking enough water so you wont really notice. it's got aload of goodies in it and can make you go that little bit longer
    ,mayorga used to train with it. to give him that extra lift. and in some way thats cool.casamayor also drinks alot of it

    P.S. mayorga drinking alof coffee kinda explains alot of his personality traits cagey, quick to aggression, and his man on fire style.
     
  9. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    you crazee:D
     
  10. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    [YT]eELH0ivexKA[/YT]


    AMEN:
     
  11. Pork Chop

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    one of the best posts i've ever seen on this forum.

    A buddy of mine who competes at a high level in brazilian jiujitsu is also one of the leanest guys I've ever known.
    He's very educated about nutrition.
    When he's cutting weight he eats a lot of salad, with regular dressing - the fat tides him over, keeps his joints healthy, and helps him hormonally - which, aside from being anabolic also helps his mood.

    I think it's going to be a long time before the world breaks out of the "eating fat makes you fat" mindset.

    My girl and I are working on making my daily nutritional intake meet the guidelines of the Zone, to keep my insulin levels in check & give me energy while retaining muscle and dropping fat.

    Any opinions on vegetables or legumes as sources of fat, like peanut butter?
    Used to eat a spoonful at night before bed when eating super low calorie, but am now wondering if it was; in fact, counter productive.
     
  12. the prom queen

    the prom queen bitter and clinging Full Member

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    make sure to drink milk too
    also breakfust burritos with jalepenos selantro and pico de gallo are good too
    if you drink coffee in the morning drink 2 glasses of whater with it
     
  13. MrSmall

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    and the carbs for energy, weights make you slow and big, etc etc

    Peanut butter is an okay fat source. As long as it's balanced with fish oil, olive oil etc. Making sure the omega6's in the peanut butter don't unbalance the omega3 : omega6 ratio. it's supposed to be a 1 : 1 ratio.

    But because all the "good" fat people eat like vegetable oil, corn oil, peanut butter etc is high in omega6, the ratio is 30-40:1. which is causing premature ageing, insulin problems and heart disease. So it must be balanced with a high fish oil intake and olive oil. It should also be balanced with animal fat as well. Beef/pork fat, chicken skin, butter, cream..

    And thanks for the compliment.
    :D
     
  14. dwilson

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    Great little thread. Good info guys so thanks.
     
  15. Pork Chop

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    Ah, gotcha. I take an Omega 3-6-9 supplement currently, so I probably don't need too much outside of that.

    In 03, I cut a lot of weight through tons of exercise & very severe calorie restriction.
    My food staples were oatmeal, mixed nuts (low or no salt), and dried fruits (apricots & raisins).
    I would have a scoop of peanut butter before bed on bad hunger-pain nights, but I think it may have been counter productive - even if it did curb my appetite; it's very easy to gain weight eating peanut butter (at least for me).

    Right now I'm trying to repeat the magic of 03, with various tweaks.
    I'm eating a bit more, replacing the nuts & dried fruits with lots of veggies, fresh fruit, yogurt, and some meat - still eating oatmeal though.

    The exercise is also different this time around - lots of swimming with a few evening sessions of weights & boxing/muay thai each week. Before, it was cardio machines in the mornings and more boxing/muay thai workouts. I think i was still doing weights- but I lost a LOT of strength; trying to avoid that this time around.

    Thanks for the response. :)