Colin Hart - "Manny Pacquiao best I seen since Prime S R Lenoard and Julio C Chavez"

Now THATS sarcasm....

 

Well he really was drinking, then!

 

Jones does not have a legacy, despite beating a better version of Ruiz than David Haye did. Oh my!

 

P4P...

It's Manny, Roy Jones and Whitaker.

 

No, it is Johnny Ruiz for goodness sake, the man who use to bore the pants out off, of a York Hall type audience on the way up.

It is a damning indictment of how poor the division is, that Ruiz through a tough chin and a bit of dedication became a top ten Heavyweight in the period. In other eras he would of struggled to crack the top 50, with his lack of charisma and limited ability.

If RJJ could not beat that type of opposition, then I would of been even more disappointed in him.

If RJJ had beaten Lewis or even a Klitschko, now there would of been something to be judged on!.

 

Jones beat a world class heavyweight in a very poor era. No more, no less.

 

Yep, off the top of me head

-Pea, 21
-Pac, 30-35
-Roy, 40-45

 

Nonsense. Jones' resume is as thin as can be for a supposed ATG. Pac's is FAR superior to Jones. As is Whitaker.

 

jones had more ability than pac, but achievement wise pacquia has been the greatest achiever since chavez

 

Whitaker #20
Pacquiao #33
Jones Jr #38

IMO.

 

That sounds good to me, I got Ray Leonard at 20 though.

 

I have managed to get Leonard up to #10. I think because I dislike him, I overate him, so to make up for my natural bias.

 

I don't do rankings but I've found myself doing the same with Mayweather in discussions...

I even did a Mayweather vs. Don Curry thread and (nearly) managed to set the scene for a close 50/50 fight.

 

I just dislike Lil Floyd, and unlike Leonard, Mayweather's ability to avoid fights that might matter in an all-time pound for pound sense mean I can continue to ignore my loathing of the man.:yep

Curry was awesome at 147 for a couple of years, ask Colin Jones (if you were in the NEC in January 1985 and found a nose, I am sure Colin would be grateful, if you returned it to him.), Curry could bang...

 

I agree with Hart for once.
The usual routine with Pacquiao is predict he'll lose, then when he decimates the opposition, say his opponent was "shot".