SMW + LHW #1 - Calzaghe 45-0 MW #1 - Pavlik 33-0 WW + P4P #1 - PBF - 39-0 117 fighters have tried and 117 have failed - what are the blueprints needed to beat these 3 winning machines. Calzaghe - If you are a power puncher and you land on him he just keeps coming, try to outbox him and you come of 2nd best. Pavlik - Try to outslug like Miranda and end up KO'd, try to outbox him like JT 2 and he'll grind you down. PBF - I was one of those suckers who got carried away watching 24/7 and thought Hatton's aggression + relentless pressure was the blueprint to beating Floyd - we all know what happened. Anyone got any tips for future opponents of these three 100% winners?
Mayweather - hard to stop. Maybe an outstanding fighter like Cotto. Pavlik - He's easy meat for a number of guys. Pavlik is limited and with only a couple of good wins. Very overrated. Calzaghe - fighting an elite fighter in his prime, that's what beats Joe. Washed=up Eubanks and Hopkins, plus Kessler and that's about it on his record. Toney would' ve done him, as would Jones.
I think Pavlik is the most beatable of the three - controlled aggression ala Taylor I would be the way to go, without punching yourself out - don't forget Taylor was one punch away from having Kelly out of there. Two tips, don't bother trying to outslug him, and if your going to box, make sure you are light on your feet. With Calzaghe, I feel he can be broken out of his rhythm, as Hopkins certainly proved. But a method needs to be found to spoil, and work at a high pace, because Joe will always throw 750 punches per fight and can be the aggressor, which impresses judges anywhere. Mayweather. Well......... I totally underestimated his ability both to fight on the inside, and fight dirty as he did in the Hatton fight. A few tips. 1. Don't try to outbox - just not happening 2. Don't just throw bombs from bell 1 - Floyd will switch into counter mode and pick you off at will, and as an accurate puncher, will probably KO you. 3. Forget the body - Floyd is brilliant at covering up to the body, as he proved against both Hatton and DLH. 4. Persist with the jab - DLH was using the jab and Floyd was eating it, and being outworked. Conserve energy - DLH didn't. Basically, the only fighter I can think of to beat Mayweather, is a 100% prime Kostya Tszyu - good jab, dynamite straight right, and steady (rather than excessive) workrate. Mayweather tends to give ground to people, which would play into the hands of Tszyu, i'm sure everyone has seen Zab getting KO'd etc - I don't think it would be anywhere as easy as this, but possibly could see Kostya getting the win. Your thoughts please.
Zaggy- Dawson is only logical answer IMO for this guy. Pavlik- Possbly any elite fighter in 168-175, at 160 hes unstoppable. PBF - As much as I like Cotto, I would still pick PBF to win that fight, I think he can lose only to some big guy at 154, Forrest is only one that comes to my mind when speaking about that division, and if we'r talking about stoppage I think only someone in 160 can do it.
I didn't pick fighters that could beat Pavlik and Calzaghe, because I don't feel that any one fighter in particular springs to mind. Both are certainly beatable, whereas Floyd has seldom looked like losing.
PBF - put him in with Cotto Calzaghe - put him in with Dawson in a US ring Pavlik - put him in with Kessler
Pavlik the easiest of the three to beat; footwork average, head movement less than average, upper body movement not great. Basically he has a lot of defensive flaws that could be exploited. I would say that someone like Kessler up at Super-Middlweight would take him. Mayweather: I'm not saying he won the fight, but Castillo in the first fight gave us the blueprint; educated pressure, not Hatton pressure. Cotto...maybe??? Calzaghe: I hate the man's style, but it is effective and hard to find an answer to. Maybe a hard and fast puncher, like Chad Dawson, mixed with a stamina machine, like a Glen Johnson. However, Hopkins showed that a crafty ring general with good technique can also take him to the wire.
Calzaghe could end up losing to Dawson or even a Glen Johnson. Pavlik may be beaten in the 168lb class by someone like Andrade who takes a wallop and keeps coming forward. At 160 though I have to agree he's unstoppable. Mayweather is vunerable to a host of guys from 147-154. You'll never see why though because he'll never fight them.
PBF- Cotto. I don't think anything else needs to be said. I have analyzed this fight too many times now to be bothered. I think i am going to now take Brooklyn's path, and do up a fight plan, and then just copy paste, copy paste whenever i need it. Pavlik- Many fighters, although none at 160 IMO. I think probably the worst match up for him would be Kessler, although Calzaghe would box him to peices as well. Bute could potentially beat him, as could Mundine. I would probably favour Pavlik slighty against Bute though, mainly because of BUte's leaky defence. I would probably favour him against Mundine, because of Choc's mentally instability, particularly in against a known puncher like Pavlik. Chad Dawson would carve up Pavlik like a hot knife through butter as well. He doesn't have the chin to take the punches Johnson took, and isn't as cagey as Johnson either. I personally don't think his pressure is all that effective either, as witnessed vs Taylor. If he can't cut off the ring, against a guy with the terribly awkward movement of Taylor well, how can he hope to do it to a fighter as slick as Dawson. (all of this is presuming Dawson can cut weight to 168 of course). Calzaghe- Chad Dawson. Regardless of what people are crying about the Johnson fight, the guy is damn good. He just needs work and experience. Stylistically, he can currently be beaten. Personally, i don't think Calzaghe is the guy to do this. I don't think Calzaghe can provide the swarming pressure like Johnson can, which is what he would need to do to grab the win. From the outside, a past prime Calzaghe just doesn't have enough for me at this point. It would be a very tough and close fight though, and Calzaghe would be clearly winning the exchanges from the inside. I just don't think he is effective at getting there. He ducks his head forward to much, leaving himself wide open to a guy who has tremendous uppercuts.
I think educated pressure is the way to get to Mayweather, rather than relentless pressure brought by Hatton. I feel Hatton is a better fighter than Castillo, and feel he could have pressured effectively for longer had he not lost the plot, but he was smothering his best work by being in so close, and having underestimated Floyd's ability to fight inside and dirty, left himself vulnerable, both to Floyd and the judges scorecards. I must admit I was shocked when I found out the scores, and still score the nine rounds 87-83, having had it 48-47 (or 48-48 on a Brit hugging day!) after five rounds.
Nobody within Calzaghe's weight range beats him. Calzaghe and Kessler would beat Pavlik. Margarito and Cotto would stand the best chances against Floyd. I'd love to see Margarito just relentlessly walking Floyd down.