"Coming off the floor to win" a meaningless statistic?

Yes what does the term "floored" really mean?

I feel like this doesn't get discussed enough.

 

It depends on the situation, really. Ali and Frazier showed just as much heart in The Fight of the Century as in Thrilla in Manilla, but with an extra knockdown on Ali's part. I wouldn't say one is better than the other due to the knock down. Getting up from the floor and winning shows guts, toughness, heart and a will to win, but that doesn't necessarily mean that getting beaten half to death, and then coming back to win without going down isn't as good of an example. It just so happened that Ali was floored in the first fight.

I think getting off the floor to win is just a clearer and more obvious indication of those qualities, since it indicates brushing off a moment of clear vulnerability to attain victory when there seems to be no hope, and as a result, it just looks and feels better, but it's not necessarily superior or inferior. As far as flash KD's go, then I wouldn't say they matter too much, since the fighter isn't really hurt and can easily get up without too much trouble.

 

Tyson Fury gets stronger when he gets put down

The stats dont lie

 

Epic thread. Should be bumped.

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/what-does-the-term-floored-mean-to-you.247278/


There you go.

 

It's not a meaningless statistic. When the likes of Holmes (Shavers fight) or Fury (Wilder fights) are down and seemingly out, yet rise and compose themselves enough to weather the storm and win the bout, it tells you a lot about what kind of a champion they are. Though there is more than one way to show heart and grit, getting off the canvas to win certainly inspires confidence that the fighter can go through hell.

It's a good test of professionalism, at the very least.

 

I've seen fighters trying to not hurt their oponents so that they dont get very angry. I've seen that a lot in the amateurs.

In boxing you can shut down a fighter's conciousness, but most of the time (not always, but most of the time) the victory is the result of a long and thorough work that involves destroying his mind first. Boxing is about breaking the other guy's mind, about twisting the other guy's will.

Getting up from the canvas and winning a fight says a lot about a fighter's mind. Of course that statistic matters. Not the only one that matters, though, obviously, it is just another one.

 

Indicates the willfulness of the fighter. Willfulness matters. So no, not meaningless imo.

 

I never understood the obsession with it. If you get knocked down and get up, wonderful. Floyd Patterson is a great example. But what about guys who were too strong to knock down. Am I supposed to be more impressed by a guy who gets knocked down, takes his time and gets up at the very last second to have a short break vs a guy with an iron chin absolutely refusing to go down?

I’ve always been impressed by Larry Holmes surviving the Louis XVI treatment from Ernie shavers, I’ve also always been impressed by Ali in steep decline taking those same shots and never going down.

 

I didn't realize this was a statistic...

But like any game in any sport, rallying back is a great storyline.

 

You've put me down embarrassed me in front of all these people, I'm gonna hurt you badly - Tyson Fury