"Coming off the floor to win" a meaningless statistic?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson did this numerous times during his title reign from 1956-1962.
     
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  2. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    diego corrales EPICALLY came off the matt TWICE in the 10nth round against castillo!
     
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  3. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It certainly does. Look at Tszyu. All the hype, as well as the haters. Living in his fathers shadow like '' Donny Creed '' first fight in America and gets dropped hard with a good right hand. IN the first round. After that, he's a different beast. Like that Terminator in T-2 trying to Kill Jon Connor. He completely and utterly dominates Gausha on his American debut. Adversity after Adversity.

    Calzaghe against Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins also. Marquez vs Pac IV. ****en oath it means something.
     
  4. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nikita Tszyu also in his fight against Brubaker. And that was actually a ****ing head butt. Got scored a Knock down. He got hit hard after that too and his legs buckled, but he's so strong he didn't even buckle the full way. Leg strength as well as Physical and mental. That **** builds character, builds careers and builds fighters.
     
  5. HolDat

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    Knocked down to the canvas to beat the count. Joe Louis did it plenty of times.
     
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  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Perfectly framed and expressed.

    When a fighter displays such resilience, I think it makes no mean contribution to H2H propositions when it can be reasoned that said fighter might or will get hurt but won’t fold like a cheap suit if it does happen.

    Also, for an added bonus, some fighters after being hurt can actually come back with a vengeance - being even more dangerous than they were before the fact.

    I think Larry Holmes is a good example of upholding this trait.

    While skilful anyway, I give Holmes a fair amount of credit for this particular intangible when considering his chances in hypothetical, H2H match ups.

    Within reason of course.

    Larry wouldn’t want to get too crazy firing back against HW history’s more elite punchers.

    Some fighters are so dominant up to certain points in their careers that we don’t necessarily see them sufficiently tested - so there’s no evidence to go by either way.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    It is still a meaningful achievement to get back up and win after being KD'd.

    Some are more impressive than others...Calzaghe did it on a regular basis, notably against BHop and RJJ. These were less impressive examples.

    The epic example might be the big Gypsy going down hard for long, and then getting back up to dominate Wilder for the remainder of the round.
     
  8. Salty Dog

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    "It's not how many times you go down. It's how many times you get up" - Big George