Comment on Newbie's Training/Diet

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by girl, Mar 30, 2010.


  1. girl

    girl Member Full Member

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    Stats and Background

    Age: 20.5
    Height: 158cm
    Weight: 105lbs

    I'm coming off a long period of physical inactivity and back injury recovery. I have not trained in any sports for the past 3 years. I started boxing for fitness in late February 2010 and realized I badly want to fight about halfway through March 2010. This is my first training plan, which I will have fully implemented in 2 weeks' time. I need to gain a little muscle but maintain weight.

    Main Goals

    Compete in national tournaments by Summer 2011. Nationals are 2 mins X 4 rounds, 1 min in between. Compete in Asian Games by 2014, maybe the Olympics in 2016. (There aren't a lot of female competitors where I'm from. So, let me dream.)

    First Training Plan (in minutes)

    EVERY MORNING

    - 05:50 Rise and shine! (23:30/00:00 Bedtime)
    - Warm-up* 10
    - Jog** 15 + Rest 1 + Jog 15 + Sprint<5
    - (Skip 2 + Rest 1) X 4

    * Warm-up- stretches, lunges, press-ups, toe-tap jumps
    ** Jog- includes curves, straights, stairs, slopes

    WEEKDAY AFTERNOONS

    Monday
    - Strength & Conditioning 60
    Wednesday
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    Pilates 60
    - Strength & Conditioning 60
    Friday
    -
    HIIT 60

    WEEKDAY EVENINGS

    Monday
    - Boxing Circuit ("Boxercise") 60
    - Pilates 60
    Tuesday & Wednesday
    - Boxing 90
    Thursday & Friday
    - Boxing 90 + Rest 15 + Boxing 90

    WEEKEND


    Saturday
    - Pilates 60
    - Boxing Circuit ("Boxercise") 60
    Sunday
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    Rest, apart from morning jog and skipping

    DIET

    - 07:30 Breakfast, after exercise: french toast/ 2 egg whites on wheat bread w/ coffee
    - 13:00 Lunch, usu. before exercise: usu. freshly made turkey/salmon/cheese wrap* or sandwich w/ smoothie**
    - Mid-afternoon Fruit
    - 18:00 Dinner, usu. before boxing: usu. cruciferous vegetables, steamed/grilled/lightly fried fish, palm of brown rice (3:2:1)
    - 22:30 Snack, usu. after boxing, to stop any hunger: cruciferous vegetables

    * e.g. turkey + potato + pumpkin + baby spinach + cranberry sauce + plain tortilla (155kcal, protein 7.1g, fat 3.8g, carb 23.3g, d-fiber 2.9g)
    ** e.g. banana + blueberry + raspberry sherbet + apple juice (241kcal, carb 58g, protein 2g, calcium 45mg)

    Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated! :D

    I am hoping to add a workout at home on weekends. It'd be good chance to target body areas I miss on weekdays. Any ideas?

    How and when should I turn training up a notch?
     
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  3. girl

    girl Member Full Member

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    :lol: Hi, yourself. Re S: Do you really need to ask? Now, will you give me some constructive criticism?
     
  4. boxingtactics07

    boxingtactics07 Active Member Full Member

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    You are overcomplicating the workout. Your gym should have a basic schedule for 5 days a week to cover your boxing needs. Each day is different as far as what you work on. Ours was m/w/f boxing fundamentals and general workouts involved with boxing. t/s were more technical (lighter days) but sparring was done more than often on these two days. Body parts do NOT need to be isolated on "weekends" or any other time. Boxing is a full body workout. Maybe someone here can provide a biomechanical breakdown (doubt it though as I would be interested too) of the muscles involved for each activity and you'd be surprised that it really is the ultimate workout. Strength should be put at the END of a boxing workout. It should not have it's own session before the workout. Boxing is always first. You also need to sleep for more than 5-6 hours a day. People can pull that off with a sedentary lifestyle, but an athlete will eventually burn out. You also don't need to wake up at 5 A.M. just because a lot of the oldschool guys did it. Hill sprints and a combination of a variety of distance exercises (running, biking, swimming, etc) would be good for your conditioning to supplement your boxing. Keep at least 1 full rest day. 2 If you need the rest (which I did). Your pilates can be done on the 6th day if you want to keep it in your routine. Your diet should also be varied. There is no magical diet - eating the same foods day in and day out is not the key to success.
     
  5. girl

    girl Member Full Member

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    I think you may well be right. I am blessed with a coach that gives me the individual attention I need. So, it is safe to assume that every minute I spend at his gym counts towards fulfilling my "boxing needs". However, his gym is pretty bare - a ring, a mirror, skipping ropes and bags. No weights or treadmills etc. (I nicknamed it Sparta.)

    Which explains why I do my conditioning at such odd hours, at another conditioning-specific gym. Coming off such a long period of rest, I am a little out of shape. My stamina is acceptable, but my core strength is a flop - actually, most of my muscles are flops, and my mobility is limited. Don't most boxers put in hours of conditioning? I've cut down to 4 hours/week though, having heard from you.

    So, I've found... Coach says my heart is too big for my head. I try to do too much. And, it's not easy to balance training with law exams! I swapped out my morning skipping and running for more sleep. And, I'm taking the weekend off, though I might later slot in some hill sprints there. Cheers for your advice. What a wake-up call - (poor) pun intended.

    This, I am doing. I just decided to generalize, to save ESB members from having to read all my recipes. :D

    Thanks again.
     
  6. Amin

    Amin Member Full Member

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    Just be sure not to neglect muscles that you never use in boxing. I messed up my shoulder pretty badly a year ago because I didn't do enough exercises to work out the small muscles in my back, and my shoulders were starting to roll forward.
     
  7. Kevin_Wright

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    Yeah I was actually going to comment on the amount of sleep you get. You should probably be aiming for 7-8 hours per night. To give yourself a chance to recover.
     
  8. girl

    girl Member Full Member

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    I'm out of town at the moment. I will most probably be training at Fitzroy Lodge and/or Rooney's when I return.

    No aiming necessary. I'm now deaf to the alarm. :lol:
     
  9. I agree with that, also i think you're doing pretty good already.

    I would say do the diet by feel, it looks fairly slim right now but i suppose i can't really relate to your size.

    Most of these things are learnt subjectively. Best of luck. :bbb
     
  10. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Advice doesn't get any better than this... absolutely spot on:good

    Just some general comments from me to help you along the way. Try not to over analyse things - I have seen a number of your posts of late, and you appear to be trying to perfect every little thing. Try to be a little easier on yourself - you will enjoy it more and learn faster... trust me on this one.

    Diet - Eat a well varied, balanced and enjoyable diet (it can be done). Little and often. Don't bother with counting this that and the other, use the mirror and the scales for feedback - both will tell you if you are eating too much or not enough. Remember, every single person is different, and subsequently reacts differently to things, so benchmark diets are not what they are made out to be.

    Sleep - you need more, nothing further to add.

    General training - Again, don't over complicate things, find what works for you. Skills are massively important, but over analysing will restrict your 'flow' - keep it simple, and modify accordingly, but one thing at a time.

    Records - This is key. Whilst i'm not one for trying to plan to intensively (I prefer to go on feeling), I am one for recording everything. Take daily records of your what you ate, what you done, how you slept, your weight, body composition and most importantly how you feel in yourself. Buuild a history of your body that you can refer back to. Without question, this is the best way to maximize your performance.

    Good luck, and don't forget to be easy on yourself, chill out and enjoy the journey.
     
  11. RDJ

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    Everything has been said really, except for this: don't throw away egg yolks! Half of the protein and all the nutrients are in the yolk. Your diet is in dire need of fats, and nutrients are always welcome.
     
  12. girl

    girl Member Full Member

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    Trusting. You are either really perceptive or I'm really transparent! :lol:

    Cheers for all the advice, guys! It's taken a little while to gather some "feedback" from my body. Things are simpler, smoother and more predictable now. I'm eating more, sleeping (a lot) more and taking a rest day whenever necessary.

    I'm out of town. Right now, I'm paying ~115 quid/month for boxing coaching and conditioning etc. combined. I like to show up when everybody else's at their 9 to 5 jobs, and chances are, it'll just be the trainer and I. Rooney's fees may be found here: http://www.rooneysgym.com/Fees.html

    To answer your other question: I'm not allowed anywhere near weight-lifting for now. Given my strength and stature, I'd just crush myself! Instead, my trainer combines exercises for mobility (because mine leaves much to be desired) with softer weights, e.g. powerbags, kettle bells, medicine balls, smaller dumbbells, my own body weight.
     
  13. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm really perceptive... been around long enough to be able to read between the lines...

    Sounds like your trainer has a good understanding of things... just listen, learn and enjoy.
     
  14. southpaw jab

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    If I read correctly you go to sleep at 11:30-12 at night and wake up at 5:30! You can start by getting some more sleep.
     
  15. darkrobot

    darkrobot New Member Full Member

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    Hi girl,

    I don't have any training or diet advice that hasn't already been mentioned, but I am a boxer the same weight and height as you, and also hoping to return from a long layoff (major illness) soon. Just thought I'd say hi :hi:, hope I'll fight again someday if I get back to full health and fitness, there are so few competitors especially for the tiddly weights. I had to fight a competitor who was 121lb just to get a match in my first and only fight so far (I am 105lb and had to hide weights in my clothes). Hope to see you around someday.
     
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