Compare PBF and Sweet Pea from the standpoint of technical skill

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bokaj, Oct 12, 2010.


  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I thought Floyd's adjustments vs Oscar and Judah are the best examples of him doing so myself, especially against Oscar anyway.
     
  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Mayweather isn't among the more impressive at boxing and turning his man at mid-distance of all the great defensive fighters and technicians, or whatever you want to call them.

    It's a big part of the reason i've lost interest in him post 130 and feel his performance dropped as he adopted more of a pure boxing approach.Too much shelling up, backing up in straight lines and inneficient movement.All of his more convincing performances since 130 for me,have been when he went back to that 130 style ie overmatched Gatti, Mosley, Corley and to an extent Judah.I like fighters who can put consistent offense on their opponent from a maintained mid-range position while moving.Floyd is effective, but usually wants to either be way outside or up close in his defensive posture, his mid-range stuff is usually flat footed Don Curry-esque and he doesn't have the power to do that above 135 against the beasts at the higher weights too many compare him to on here.

    not sure what this has to do with the thread concept. mind you.;)
     
  3. teeto

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    I agree with the inconsistent theory, but Mayweather has shown fine footwork, the display against Marquez is a footwork masterclass, albeit against a fighter who has relatively poor footwork. It should be noted that other world class pure boxers such as Chris John have not been able to outmaneuver (spellcheck) Marquez so easily. Anyway, Marquez is not a good win at 147, all this is not being argued, but i'm just pointing out that i love watching boxing like that, i love watching Hopkins do it to foes who can never match him for technical footwork in a million years. Always having them out of position and never even thinking they're going to land. For a good sustained period before that time however, Mayweather was simply going to the ropes and being very defensive minded, so as i said, the inconsistency argument against what i just mentioned does stand. Marquez was so schooled though, people seemed a bit pissed off with Mayweather for not trying to stop him, maybe that's right, i don't know, i appreciate all styles. Hell, if Cory Spinks wants to run around the ring countering with jabs and be a successful fighter from it, then more power to him. If Calzaghe wants to slap, then same to him. It's an art, not a science, they can do what they want and it's all good with me,
     
  4. gooners!!

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    Mayweather had better legs than Whitaker, Whitaker was better inside, and in the pocket, that is the main difference between the two imo.

    Whitaker was also more aggressive than Mayweather, more of a closer.

    Whitaker used the jab more consistently, was an effective body puncher to.

    I also think Whitaker was better at dictating range because of that jab.


    Whitaker was also more active.
     
  5. lefthook31

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    Too simplify without calling Mayweather better, he did more with less than Whitaker. Whitaker had a wide variety of skillset, and he needed it to be as great as he was, because he hit like a featherweight.
     
  6. gooners!!

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    Regarding the Judah fight, I felt Mayweather was not putting his punches together enough, infact if you watch the fight, you will see that yes Mayweather is throwing the lead right, but he does not throw the left hook behind it, when he starts to, he starts putting punches together, which builds a momentum of pressure, pressure being the best way to fight a southpaw, but you have to put punches together in 3/4's, not singles, this scenario coincided with Judah's inability to suck it up under pressure, but also Mayweather ad******g and applying more pressure.

    Its no coincidence that Mayweather fought 3 of his most aggressive fights against Corley, Judah, and to a degree, Mitchell, who are all! left handed.
     
  7. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pea is more complete. Better boxer, better jab, better combination puncher, more versatile defense, better chin, the list goes on.