Comparing JMM to PBF

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by imp4pdabest, Dec 18, 2008.


  1. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    JMM is better defensively? JMM has been knocked down & hurt on numerous occassions, cant say the same about Floyd.

    Floyd has been compared to having great defense like Pernell, has JMM?
     
  2. 19king88

    19king88 Member Full Member

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    jmm is a damn good fundamental fighter, floyd has a style that depends heavily on his athleticism , dont get me wrong flyod is pretty damned fundamently sound himself,i just think if you were too take away the fact that he's an amazing athelete boxing wise they r about the same
     
  3. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even though they are both very gifted counter punchers they are very different fighters.

    Floyd loves fighting on the back foot, using his quick feet to move away from danger and quickly placing himself in for a quick single punch. He potshots then moves about.

    Marquez, although fights a lot moving backwards using his halfstep, sets himself up for combinations and hangs in the pocket to gain leverage.

    Both of these fighters are very skilled with what they do and works very well for them.
    I think we would be splitting hairs making the comparison on who is better overall.
     
  4. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Floyds proved he's great, even without his athleticism.
     
  5. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They both are highly skilled in their own way. Mayweather's defence is better but Marquez' offense is better. I pick Marquez only for stylistic preference.
     
  6. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    JMM, Hell, he beat Pac two times!
     
  8. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is the one with the moustache, JMM the bald one....:hey
     
  9. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    you picked him because he's mexican. I picked JMM because he's the lesser of the 2 evils from a ******* point of view.
     
  10. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    sure did
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    As far as I see, Marquez willingnmess to throw combinations is the only thing he has over Mayweather.

    That doesnt mean he throws better combo`s than Mayweather, just that Floyd doesnt throw enough IMO.

    Mayweather is better than Marquez, I think he would beat him in a H2H even without the size difference.
     
  12. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Yeah, I just thing PBF is better in all aspects
     
  13. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    The 2 should not be compared as much as alot of people here like to do. PBF is better than JMM but just because he's better doesn't mean he can do better than JMM if they fight common opponents. It doesn't work like that as obviously there are styles to consider. And PBF and JMM do NOT have the same style except for counter-punching and even the way they use it is different.

    For example, some people erroneously think that just because JMM "beat" Pac, that PBF is gonna beat Pac worse. I don't agree with that type of reasoning at all. Anybody who has followed PBF and JMM in their careers should see the obvious that, aside from counter-punching, these 2 are DIFFERENT.

    So as I said, PBF is better but it doesn't necessarily mean that he'll do better than JMM against common opponents.
     
  14. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    JMM is the better counterpuncher when faced against a fighter like pacquaio. JMM waits for pac to attack then suddenly steps back or move his head then launches his combinations of hooks, straights and uppercuts. his speed is greatly underrated. His timing is superb and when his timing fails, he gets hit and is vulnerable to KDs. but because of his counterpunching-offensive style, he discourages pacquaio to become more offensive, he actually lowers pac's workrate. pac is just an animal in the ring that's why he still seems agressive even with that lowered workrate.

    PBF is a potshot-run around fighter (at least with bigger opponents). he isn't as fast as JMM in launching a counter-offensive attack because he focuses more in defense. If he tries to use his sliiping and shoulder rolls against pacman, it ain't gonna work because that style is good only against slow to average-speed and usually fatigued fighters. pac on the other hand does not slow down and his combinations aren't predictable. he goes up and down in a matter of a second when he unleashes a combination to the head and body. he could avoid the potshot and he could land against the shoulder roll. PBF has to be more offensive like JMM to win this fight. that means he has to change his style.

    And no JMM and PBF are completely different. just because both are counter-punchers doesn't mean they are the same. Pac is getting good in counterpunching too FYI.
     
  15. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jmm - Better counter puncher

    Floyd - better on defense and more athletic.