Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roy fought a bunch of mall security guards and UPS drivers, Artur is beating up real boxers. Not to mention roys lack of punch resistance.
     
  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    RJjr beats Beterviev and Bivol on the same night. You all must have forgot.
     
  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beterbeef by KO at 175. I think Roy was at his best at 160/168.
     
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  4. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Real boxers like Anthony Yarde and Callum Liam? Or is it Liam Callum
     
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  5. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Virgil Hill alone craps all over Beterbiev's resume, Bivol aside (whom he did not even properly beat). And even then, there's a good case to be made that Hill > Bivol, at least as of now.

    20 title defences, about a dozen wins over ranked contenders, rated as a top 3 Light Heavyweight for 11 years straight, and was ranked as the divisional #1 for half of them. Aside from a loss to literally one of the greatest P4P fighters ever, he had never tasted defeat in 13 years. He also beat the 30-0 Henry Maske, the only guy who was top 3 ranked as long as him in the 90's. Had Jones (in 4 rounds, mind you) and DM not beaten him, he would be known as the best LHW of the 90's. Hell, he even snatched a belt at Cruiserweight by first round KO against Tiozzo, the divisional #2.

    After Bivol, his best win is Gvozdyck. His win over Stevenson is excellent, but there's absolutely nothing else there. What makes him better than a guy like Eric Harding who has wins over tricky southpaws like Antonio Tarver and Montell Griffin ? Both Harding and Gvodyck only lost to the best, so it's not as if the former having only 2 less losses is a game changer here.

    After that you've got guys like Yarde, Browne, Johnson and the two Smiths. Yeah, clearly a murderer's row that is obviously superior in terms of quality and depth to guys like Montell Griffin, Antonio Tarver, Israel Gonzalez and Reggie Johnson.
     
  6. tragedy

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  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His win over Bivol is great but it’s not as great of a win over guys like Hopkins or Toney.
     
  8. monaim

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    5050 for me. Beterbiev also has the tools to defeat Rjj. He would likely dominate Tony and Hopkins as well.
     
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  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saw you calling someone a troll in another thread and then you come out with this.
     
  10. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    And I'm throwing Roy's CLEAR UD win over heavyweight John Ruiz in the mix. Yeah we're going there. Taking that all day over 1 good win Beterbiev. Lets see him do that. YALL MUSTA FORGOT
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those wins weren't at 175.
     
  12. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Halfway credit still because Hopkins and Toney were excellent at 175 and would arguably beat Beterbiev as well in fact I'd bank on it
     
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  13. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev gonna destroy them.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They were but Hopkins was still green when he lost to RJJ. Hopkins peaked much later in his career. And Toney was severely weight drained against RJJ.
     
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  15. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Let me see Beterbiev batter cruiserweights and move up to heavyweight like Toney. Let me see Beterbiev actually convincingly beat a defensively decent boxer let alone defensive master like B Hop when he could never lay one solid punch on Bivol. Beterbiev has 1 good win. Thats a FACT
     
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