Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

It's just too bad Roid didn't have this kind of mentality during his prime at LHW.

 

It’s difficult to have a debate about Roy on this board, people from both sides get emotional with the mere mention of his name.

It’s perfectly reasonable to pick Beterbiev over Roy, I’ve acknowledged this more than once in this thread.

But to argue this based on 35+ Beterbiev being better than 35+ Roy, to try to argue that the one that got KOd by Glen Johnson was the same Roy as ever is intellectually dishonest.

You can believe any factor for his decline. You can believe his sudden decline was because of PED use, or it was because of bulking up and cutting back down, or it was due to age, that he got old overnight, or that it was a combination of all 3. In any case, I don’t see how It’s deniable that post-Ruiz Roy was the same fighter as the one before the jump up and down in weight. And we have to go with the best versions of the fighters when we’re discussing their chances in fantasy match ups.

It sucks that Beterbiev got his chance against quality opposition mostly in his late 30s unlike Roy who was in world title fights and relatively big fights from the age 24 until his mid to late 30s, but that’s the reality of the situation.

Based on the reality, I can only gauge Beterbiev’s chances against RJJ from his fights against Gvozdyk, Bivol, Yarde and Browne and Roy’s chances against Artur from his fights against Montell Griffin, Hill(spare me the “he already lost to DM” crap) Reggie Johnson, Del Valle, Hall, Harding(not using Roy’s best and career defining win over Toney as It was not at 175) as that’s the sample we have from them at or close to their best against relatively quality opposition.

So based on all that, Roy by close decision is my pick for this fantasy match up.

 

This is the most reasonable and intelligent responsive I've read on this thread with its 200+ responses so far.

 

Then you missed my detailed breakdown of the fight on page 14 haha

 

How about this one. He beat Usyk in the Amatuers. Could Roy do that? Usyk beats Roy into the ground.

 

Shawn Porter beat Usyk in the Amateurs. Porter >>> Fury

 

Usyk was 20. Beterbiev beat Usyk when he was 22 and arguably beat him again when he was 26.

 

He didn't. He beat him 2 years after Porter got it done. Don't worry, we'll see Beterbiev at cruiserweight soon

 

It's like RJJ transferred some of his brain damage taken from his KOs over to your brain.

 

Your mother hugs mine every night before I go to sleep.

 

He does. I’ve been rooting for Usyk since 2011, and Beterbiev is the guy who came closest to beating him in the 2012 olympics. But he also came very close to losing to Michael Hunter in the same olympics. But these are 3 round fights.

 

You brought up nuts. I'm meeting you on your level. Mr. "Roll and smoke".

 

Roy beat a lot of good light heavyweights. Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin, Eric Harding, Reggie Johnson