Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

Neither has Beterbiev, even up at HW in the amateurs whilst giving away a lot of weight. Point being if Roy couldn't stop those guys at LHW there's no reason why he would be able to do so to Beterbiev.

I would favour Beterbiev to stop all those guys though and I'll tell you who has been stopped, and stopped more times than I can remember: Roy

Roy never fought anyone at LHW who could punch anywhere near as hard as Beterbiev and we know his chin was forged out of a composite of wafer, egg shell, twiglets and chicken bone.

 

Yes, Cloud had never been off his feet before in his life and it's plain to see Beterbiev looked much more fluid, faster, and more dynamic back then in his prime

 

Rojos think Beterbiev is going out like Glen Kelly because he doesn't have a deep enough pro resume which is pretty hard to do when you don't even turn pro until you're 28.5 y/o and you spent your 30s only having 14 fights because you keep getting injured which I guess must have been due to the wear and tear of a handful of pro fights and not because of the 300 amateur fights he had and two decades of gruelling training.

Of course anyone who is familiar with Beterbiev's amateur career knows full well what a wrecking machine he was even in his early 20s and had he turned pro back then like these North American greats and so many of these top pros did he would've been even more of a wrecking machine than he was throughout his injury-ravaged 30s and had a much deeper resume.

Same had Usyk and Loma turned pro one Olympic cycle earlier.

Can you imagine how good phenom Loma would've been had he turned pro in his teens at a much lower weight and how many divisions he would've won world titles in had he done so, let alone had he been able to do so fighting from home with home refs and judges his entire career like his US contemporaries? But we're supposed to play this silly little game where we pretend this would not be the case with these amateur greats from former Soviet states who we know were able to replicate great success in the pros like they did in the amateurs despite the fact they left a huge part of their prime and best years and form in the amateurs because, duh, we've actually seen them do it and still achieve great things in the pros when long past their best like Usyk and Beterbiev becoming undisputed at 37 and a few months shy of turning 40 respectively. And Loma should've done the same at 35 y/o which is very old for a leprechaun sized fighter, let alone one with 400 amateur fights, despite campaigning in a division he's tiny for and routinely giving away huge physical advantages that no one in the P4P top 20 is other than Usyk. Need I remind you that many fan's current P4P#1 Crawford weighed more for his 154 debut, his 4th weight class, than his career opponent at that weight did and he had a huge reach advantage over him too

 

We know Roy has a deeper pro resume than Beterbiev but we also know he turned pro way younger than him at 20 y/o and not only had a lot more pro fights but he also had an 8.5 year headstart on him in the pros and that was 8.5 years of his prime years without the wear and tear of 300 amateur fights on his body when his body was fresh and not ravaged by injury. We also know that Beterbiev is not only one of the hardest punchers of all time at LHW but that Roy's chin was made out of wet biscuit and he never fought anyone at the weight who punched anywhere near as hard as Beterbiev does, let alone someone who was not only that powerful but also that skilled, physically strong, tough and fit and relentless as Beterbiev is

We may well have seen Beterbiev have 50 fights had he turned pro at 20 in his prime when his body was fresh and healthy and had we done do so I'm very confident he would've not only become an ATG LHW but he would've won titles at CW and maybe even up at HW. He may well have turned pro at SMW at that age and won titles down there as well

Just because great amateurs turn pro late doesn't mean they wouldn't be able to replicate the success great pros who turned pro young did had they turned pro at a similar age. There's zero reason to believe they wouldn't. Like I said in an earlier post had Lona turned pro in his teens or at 20 we would be talking about a six weight champion if not more with same day weigh ibs and you only have to look at the fact that he should've become undisputed at 135 when well past his absolute prime, a division he's tiny for and is giving away huge physical advantages at, to know that. He's never lost to a smaller fighter in his life and all his pro losses came against fighters who were between 2-4 divisions heavier than him and truth be told it should only be 1 loss so there's zero argument he wouldn't have been able to win titles from 115 to 135 had he turned pro at 115. Just because you turned pro late and don't have as deep a resume doesn't mean you can't beat fighters who turned pro much younger than you with deeper pro resumes. Resumes don't win fights

Beterbiev isn't rehydrating a ton of weight. When he campaigned up at HW in the amateurs he weighed 185-187lbs, way under the he limit, and he said himself that if he did move up to CW to fight Usyk he didn't plan on gaining anymore weight. He has a very muscular physique but his frame isn't that big. I couldn't see a noticeable size difference between him and Bivol even at walk around weight when they met long before they fought. I think he's naturally bigger than Bivol but everyone at LHW is and Beterbiev is not the massive LHW many think he is