Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beterbiev at 40 only has 22 professional fights and not fought that many notable opponents.

    RJJ when he had his first real loss had 50 professional fights had gone up multiple weightclasses and fought way more notable opponents big difference.

    As for Michalczewski RJJ was not willing to travel to Germany and Michalczewski was not willing to travel to America a bit different than what you're implying.
     
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Easy. By landing a punch on Roy's Jelly Glass Jaw which was putrid. It's totally possible Bivol has a better Chin than Roy.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whilst eating punches from a hard puncher himself with blazing speed.

    Bivol is not in the same league as RJJ regarding speed or power.
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    It's 100% reality. The shot Joe Smith Jr. caught Bivol with for instance would have left Roid out cold for a week. FFS! Featherfised Glen Johnson had Roid knocked out for a full five minutes! Bivols chin is godly in comparison.
     
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  5. Forza

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    Roy was not a massive puncher at LHW, look at how many people he went the distance with. Bivol has an A+ jaw, AB has a A- jaw
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    I suggest you watch RJJ breaking Hill's ribs with one punch and the rag dolling Griffin all over the ring in 1 round and then tell me RJJ didn't have power at Light Heavyweight.

    Why do you constantly come out with nonsense when you don't know what you're talking about ? Everytime I've engaged with you in this thread you've showed you don't have the knowledge so please just stop.
     
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  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yeah I'm not buying what you are selling. Roy wasn't a power puncher at 175. He was more than perfectly content to just go the 12 rounds.
    The idea that Beterbiev wouldn't land one single punch on Glass Jaw Roy but fighters like Lou Del Valle could is laughable. Feather fisted Glen Johnson knocked Roy into next week for christ sakes! :lol:
     
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Rank these Chins for us this should be very simple:

    Bivol
    Beterbiev
    Roy
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that's obvious you're a hater so trying to get you to look at this subject with a balanced opinion is literally a waste of time you just look at negatives for one side and not the other.

    I suppose Callum Johnson knocking down Beterbiev like a sack of potatoes has no relevance either ?
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rank those fighters according to their resume and ability I'll wait.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Read what I wrote. Roy was not 'feather fisted' at 175 but he also was NOT a power puncher or a savage puncher. Way too many of his fights went the distance and against mediocre handpicked or mediocre mandatory opponents. Roy was perfectly fine with that.
    If you search my posts on here leading up to the Bivol fight you will actually see multiple posts I made about Beterbiev not having a great Chin and not being unbeatable. That being said - Beterbiev absolutely has a better Chin than Roy freaking Jones it isn't up for debate to any sane boxing fan which you seem to not be :lol:
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    We are talking about The Chin which in these hypothetical fights is all that matters. Bivol already has proven he can take Beterbiev's punches and vice versa. Rank the Chins.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RJJ used to toy with opponents like he did with Hall he basically treated him as a sparring partner whilst clowning for half the fight. The same Hall BTW who had 2 back and forth wars with Michalczewski who you've mentioned in this thread that RJJ ducked him which is also false.

    RJJ could hit hard and hurt anybody he had considerable power at Light Heavyweight and you'd be a fool to think otherwise.

    As for chin ? I've never said RJJ's chin was better than Beterbiev's chin have i ? So I'm not what you're rambling on about ? As for being sane ? it seems like you have the issue there you can't even keep track of the discussion.

    I asked you to rank the opponents in accordance to their ability and resume.
     
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  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Do you think for one second if Roy was around in this era that he would fight either Beterbiev or Bivol knowing what we know? :lol:
    You can't be this delusional. Roy wouldn't even fight DM so this is pretty moot. Beterbiev and Bivol have taken on much greater risk(s) than Glass Jaw Roy did at 175 in fighting each other alone. There is no comparison because Roy wouldn't go near either of them he would write letters to the sanctioning bodies demanding they be stripped or removed from the rankings all together so Roy could fight some handpicked bum to collect a paper trinket belt.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Still don't answer my question in regards to ranking the fighters nor did you have a rebuttal for any of my points so now you're changing the goalposts making up a fantasy scenario that RJJ wouldn't fight either of them.

    Pretty much you lost the debate you have no real argument other than these silly remarks to discredit RJJ because you're hater good to know.

    End of discussion bye not worth my time.
     
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