Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

Well that's obvious you're a hater so trying to get you to look at this subject with a balanced opinion is literally a waste of time you just look at negatives for one side and not the other.

I suppose Callum Johnson knocking down Beterbiev like a sack of potatoes has no relevance either ?

 

Rank those fighters according to their resume and ability I'll wait.

 

Read what I wrote. Roy was not 'feather fisted' at 175 but he also was NOT a power puncher or a savage puncher. Way too many of his fights went the distance and against mediocre handpicked or mediocre mandatory opponents. Roy was perfectly fine with that.
If you search my posts on here leading up to the Bivol fight you will actually see multiple posts I made about Beterbiev not having a great Chin and not being unbeatable. That being said - Beterbiev absolutely has a better Chin than Roy freaking Jones it isn't up for debate to any sane boxing fan which you seem to not be

 

We are talking about The Chin which in these hypothetical fights is all that matters. Bivol already has proven he can take Beterbiev's punches and vice versa. Rank the Chins.

 

RJJ used to toy with opponents like he did with Hall he basically treated him as a sparring partner whilst clowning for half the fight. The same Hall BTW who had 2 back and forth wars with Michalczewski who you've mentioned in this thread that RJJ ducked him which is also false.

RJJ could hit hard and hurt anybody he had considerable power at Light Heavyweight and you'd be a fool to think otherwise.

As for chin ? I've never said RJJ's chin was better than Beterbiev's chin have i ? So I'm not what you're rambling on about ? As for being sane ? it seems like you have the issue there you can't even keep track of the discussion.

I asked you to rank the opponents in accordance to their ability and resume.

 

Do you think for one second if Roy was around in this era that he would fight either Beterbiev or Bivol knowing what we know?
You can't be this delusional. Roy wouldn't even fight DM so this is pretty moot. Beterbiev and Bivol have taken on much greater risk(s) than Glass Jaw Roy did at 175 in fighting each other alone. There is no comparison because Roy wouldn't go near either of them he would write letters to the sanctioning bodies demanding they be stripped or removed from the rankings all together so Roy could fight some handpicked bum to collect a paper trinket belt.

 

Still don't answer my question in regards to ranking the fighters nor did you have a rebuttal for any of my points so now you're changing the goalposts making up a fantasy scenario that RJJ wouldn't fight either of them.

Pretty much you lost the debate you have no real argument other than these silly remarks to discredit RJJ because you're hater good to know.

End of discussion bye not worth my time.

 

This is such a weird argument.
You are taking a shot version of a fighter and using that as reasoning that he would lose when he was younger as well. It's like saying Kevin McBride would always beat Mike Tyson.
Jones was finished by the time of the Johnson fightt. Even the commentary team said he was not the same fighter any more - repeatedly.

 

The fact that Beterbiev and Bivol fought each other is more than Reluctant Roy (which the very cable network he fought on called him because he wouldn't make the big fights they wanted) would ever do. Beterbiev and Bivol are willing to take risks. Roy wasn't. That's the answer that you seem to not understand.

 

Especially when they're comparing a fighter aka RJJ who started off as Middleweight who had over double the amount of professional fights to Beterbiev with a far better resume and had 50 professional fights when he started to show weaknesses.

Compared to Beterbiev who has only 22 professional fights with not alot of substance to his resume and he's a Cruiserweight fighting in the Light Heavyweight division.

But yeah you got to love that "logic" trying to rationalize with haters is a waste of time.

 

Was Jones also 'finished' when he fought Lou Del Valle?
Beterbiev would knock Glass Jaw Roy into next decade and I think there is also a chance Bivol does as well.

 

Beterbiev has all the belts and he got them by fighting the top guys in the Division. He didn't get them by writing letters to various sanctioning bodies demanding certain fighters be stripped or removed as a mandatory etc. That's the difference between Beterbiev, Bivol and Glass Jaw Roy. Roy wasn't willing to take the risks. Beterbiev and Bivol were. Its really that simple.

 

No. But you had to catch him to knock him out - which nobody did until he was 34. Just because Del Valle (a former sparring partner) knocked him down (but not out) doesn't necessarily mean AB would. That's not how it works. Ali was knocked down by Henry Cooper but Foreman and Liston couldn't ko him. Have you even seen the Johnson fight? Not the same fighter.

 

Tyson had a long career, wars and his body was physically destroyed. Why did Roids career take such a sudden and drastic nosedive?

 

It took years for Bivol/Beterbiev to happen the reason why RJJ and Michalczewski never happened is because one fighter fought primarily in Germany the other in America and neither wanted to travel I've told you this countless times.

And I've also gave you rankings of the fighters RJJ beat.

Griffin ranked 4th
Hill ranked 3rd
Del Valle ranked 4th
Johnson ranked 5th
Harding ranked 3rd

5 fighters ranked in the top 5.

He also took on Tarver at age 35 who was the ranked number 1 Light Heavyweight after fighting at Heavyweight.

So all this drivel from you that RJJ never took "risks" is complete nonsense backed up by actual facts of how the fighters were ranked at the time not your "opinion" which is nonsense.