Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't why we keep harping on about power, when prime Roy was very hard to hit clean, its not like it would be a shoot out in the pocket. Even prime Beterbiev relies on breaking down opponents not taking them out with 1 punch. He simply would not hit prime roy jones enough times to break him down and would be target practice for Roy.
     
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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Is Roid Jones retired yet? Anderson Silva can knock him out cold in a send off fight.
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I saw that wanka interviewer trying his hardest to imply that Canelo hits harder than Beterbiev when that is not at all what Bivol said. The dude is obviously a Canelo ball bag swinger.
     
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  4. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would only take a glancing blow from AB to completely shut roys lights off
     
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  5. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is laughable. Roy getting knocked out by glancing blows now lol. That never happened in his whole career even when he was shot.
     
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  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    It’s not laughable at all. Feather fisted Glen Johnson savagely KOed Glass Jaw Roy for almost 6 minutes. Think about that.
    Roy couldn’t take a punch at all. He had no Chin no Plan B and no Heart. None.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah he is. Anyone who thinks Clenelo hits harder than Beterbiev or even as hard as him needs to be sectioned.
     
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  8. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Roy was great - there’s no denying that. Many thought he was up there with SRR and SRL. In terms of talent and athleticism, he was. But unless you die young, greatness must be maintained and the masses reminded. Roy neglected that. His resume isn’t as bad as his critics say, but it’s not even close to SRR, SRL, Ali, Pacquiao, Spinks, Charles, Moore, or the lesser lights of Holyfield, De la Hoya, Morales, Barrera etc. Reluctant Roy and the Roycott had their basis in reality. The reason that Roy rapped Y’all Must’ve Forgot was because boxing was tired of him fighting unemployed bartenders and assistant grave diggers while talking about himself in the third person, while guys like undefeated Dariusz M and Vassily Jirov were in or close to his weight class. Imagine rapping about how good you were to people rightfully tired of you no longer fighting…instead of actually fighting someone to remind them. Roy was a victim of his own hubris.
    Based on what we witnessed of Roy at 175, he never would’ve signed to fight Arthur. He would’ve priced himself out, claiming his health was more important and in the next breath announce that he’s fighting an off duty fireman. He had the physical ability to beat Beterbiev but not mental fortitude to prove it in the ring.
     
  9. Eternal

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    There were only two top light heavyweights that Roy didn't fight and those were Dariuz M and Graciano Rochigiani. Nobody wanted to see Roy vs GR and people were way more interested in seeing Roy vs Reggie Johnson than they were in a Roy vs DM fight as seen by the poll conducted by HBO.

    There was never talk of a Roy vs Jirov fight and Calzaghe only became interested in a Roy fight after Roy already had three legitimate losses on his record.

    Roy really wasn't the biggest LHW as seen in his fights vs Richard Hall, Antonio Tarver and Julio Cesar Gonzalez so demanding that Roy fight at cruiser would not have been reasonable.

    Many of Roys opponents would have beaten Bivol and Beterbiev with little effort and Roy would have beaten them with even less effort.
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Favoring Roys opponents over Beterbiev let alone with little effort is ridiculous. What would one base such a silly argument on?

    Nobody was even close to beating Beterbiev in his prime
     
  11. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy was a shot fighter at that point. Completely ignoring Roy became HW champ. You are just a hater, pointless debating.
     
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  12. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look up recency bias. Beterbiev went life and death with friggin Yarde and was down on the score cards before he stopped him, and Yarde is nothing special at all. If Yarde was hitting Beterbiev all night with his left hook, just imagine Roy..
     
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  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which of Roy's light heavyweight opponents would beat Beterbiev and Bivol with little effort? Because from what I can gage all of Roy's opponents get battered by either Beterbiev, Bivol, Gvodzyk, Kovalev, Andre Ward. Are you talking about:-

    A 5 ft 9 Glen Johnson, former Middleweight? He beats Beterbiev with little effort?

    or a 40 year old Mike McCallum. He beats Bivol with little effort?

    or Clinton Woods, Reggie Johnson, Virgil Hill? Montell Griffin?

    Maybe you talking about Telesco.

    Come on man, even Joe Smith Jr beats up most of those guys.
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Lmao. You live in pure fantasy land like most Roid Jones fanboys.
     
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  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Roy was never THE Heavyweight champ that was Lennox Lewis. John Ruiz was a paper belt holder. A fraud.
     
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