Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

Roy was 100% drained for the first fight.

It can’t even be disputed.


The second fight he wasn’t drained.

He was back with Mackie Shilstone, and he was motivated.


Tarver just caught him with a great punch.

That punch would have knocked out the majority of LHW’s.

Roy looked sharp, but we only saw one full round, so we’ve not got a lot to look at.


What we don’t know, is how much the loss of muscle took out of him altogether.

Mackie pulled Roy to one side in 2003, and told him not to go back down to LHW.

He told him to have some time out, or to either remain at HW or to take a fight a CW.

He told him that taking the weight off that quickly, can affect the body’s immune system.

 

I didn’t say weight, genius.


Which one of Roy’s opponents burnt off healthy muscle to fight him?

You can’t give me a single name.


Overall weight and healthy muscle, are 2 completely different things.

 

Virgil Hill wouldn’t be a top 10 LHW today?

Ha!

 

These beatings are so great to read.

 

Nobody credits Griffin with a win over Roy.

It was just on a technicality.

Also, Hill was one of his best LHW wins.

 

He was drained in the first Tarver fight.

What we don’t know, is the overall affect it had on him afterwards.

Look at Tarver, Byrd and Dawson etc.

 

What nonsense.


Roy had fought 50 times, in a 15 year pro career before he burnt muscle to drop back from HW to LHW.

And LHW was his 3rd division.


Roy had longevity.

Fifteen years at the top isn’t longevity?


And how on earth are you going to compare that to a guy who’s been a pro for 10/11 years in just one division??


Roy did want to fight DM.

It was DM’s management who had zero interest in making the fight.

They declined HBO’s execs on numerous occasions.


Artur has surpassed Roy at LHW?

He’s beaten 8 B to C level guys, before getting a gift against Bivol.

 

Really?

Let’s hold you to this level of thinking by looking at the wins of some of your favourite fighters then.

Also, Hill won a belt at CW a few years earlier, and Roy was the only guy to ever crush him in that manner.

 

1. He wasn’t.

2. Eight of Artur’s ten world level opponents were B to C level.

 

He lost a good 10 pounds of healthy muscle, genius.


And please keep saying that his resume at LHW was laughable.


Because it’s absolutely hilarious when you compare it to Artur’s LHW resume.

Just 10 world level fighters.

With 8 of those being at B to C level.

 

It’s nothing to do with nostalgia.

It’s how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

Artur has done nothing to have given you such confidence.

The Bivol fight perfectly highlights the success and the gameplan that Roy would have employed.

 

Context.


Roy had fought almost 3 x as many pro fights, in a 20 year career.


So how are you going to make a statement like that?


Artur has only fought for 10 years, where he’s only fought 10 world level fighters, in just the one division.

 

What do you mean he wasn’t compromised in Tarver 1?

 

BS.

Roy broke his nose and made him hesitant.


Norman Stone was literally hitting him and screaming at him in-between the rounds.


“Why are you f-in waiting on this guy for Johnny?!”

“Go out and fight him!”

 

And they were former MW’s, right?

How can a HW be tailor made for any LHW in his mid 30’s?

SMH.