Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

By what metric did you give Bivol round 12?

Punches landed favored Beterbiev.
Punches thrown favored Beterbiev.
Damage inflicted favored Beterbiev.
Dictating the tempo favored Beterbiev.
Ring Generalship favored Beterbiev.
Pushing the opponent back favored Beterbiev.
Going for the win in the final round favored Beterbiev.

Blocking punches doesn't give Bivol the round especially if those blocked punches still managed to bruise up his cheekbones.

 

I counted the same number landed for both although I'll rewatch, Judges don't have the benefit of slow down, but I saw 80% of Beterbievs shots hit glove, he's just that devastating. I don't think throwing more matters that much when the opposite opponent has a much higher connect percentage and manages to lower the formers with defense. Round could go either or, Beterbiev was just more active imo. Full credit to beating Bivol at his age, he's a top tier atg at LHW, but i do think Jones is being downplayed here especially given their styles

 

I mentioned this in this very thread many Pages before, Beterbiev always has a stamina advantage over his opponents. An advantage he’d not hold against Jones.

And you explained the reason yourself. Roy would not go guns blazing, would not show eagerness to stay in the pocket and exchange like Bivol did in some of the early rounds. He’d pick his spots and do just enough to win the rounds. Because of his low output and cautious style, he’d have more left in the tank in the champiionship rounds.

 

To be honest on fight night live viewing I scored it a draw while slightly leaning towards Beterbiev as he did better in the championship rounds. The 116-112 scorecard shocked me as it did most people that night. Upon a rewatch I thought Beterbiev won.

Jones getting downplayed here has been part of this forums culture for over a decade. Loudon can testify to that.

 

That's a fair assessment. Only rebuttal from me could be that Beterbiev's sneaky power jabs and body shots here and there could slow RJJ down the stretch, as it had done all his previous opponents. But then again 40 year old Mike McCallum did keep Roy busy all night with his work rate, McCallum threw around 700 punches at Roy, mostly jabs from what I remember. But then again 40 year old Mike McCallum doesn't have the heavy hands of Beterbiev. But then again Beterbiev doesn't have the body work that Mike McCallum dished out.

 

More nonsense.

 

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