Comparing the resumes of Mayweather and Whitaker

Whitaker's first loss was to Trinidad imo. And he was so shot, it doesn't even really count.

He CERTAINLY beat Ramirez, and he CERTAINLY beat Chavez. Maybe the first Wise fight, but I think I scored that one 115-114 or 115-113 for Whitaker or something like that.

As of right now, Whitaker has the better resume and is the greater fighter. Even if Floyd were to retire right now, however, in ten years time his name will be mentioned alongside Whitaker, without people claiming that its ridiculous. Maybe not as the greater fight, but when people are talking about fast, slick, defensive geniouses of the last 30 years - Whitaker and Mayweather's name will be mentioned hand in hand.

Give Mayweather a Dela Hoya rematch and a Cotto fight (which if he fights the winner of Marg/Cintron for the IBF, would be a unification fight) - and it would be even closer. But still, you'd need to give Mayweather ten years of being retired first. Opinions change with time.

 

Go look it up man. It was not close, 9-3 Pea.

 

Right now Whitaker ranks higher than Mayweather. However the last chapter of Flyod Mayweather's carrer is yet to be written. He is extremly talanted and has allready acomplished a lot as a boxer. If he countunes to keep wining and takes on the chalanges that a boxer of his skils should I can see him overtaking Whitaker (who I rank #1) in the all time great pound for pound rankings.

 

You rank Pea as the GOAT?

 

Yes I do. I think his boxing skills/talent combined with his in ring acomplisments as well as the comption that he beat or unofficily beat make him my choice for GOAT. If you disagree I won't aruge with you. I view any all time great list as a person's personal opnion and strong cases can be made for other boxers as well as Whitaker.

 

Fair enough man. I do disagree. I would have him 10-15 and about Top 5-10 on talent. :good

 

If you consider the Ramirez fight a loss, we can see how completely flawed this thread is already. Also, the fact that Floyd wasn't a cherry-picker and hasn't finished his career yet, so you can't compare past his prime losses to someone like Tito to someone still in his prime like Floyd.

Pea beat 2, arguably 3, HOF'ers. Floyd has beaten one, a past his prime De La Hoya.

Top wins:

Whitaker

Chavez
Ramirez
McGirt
Nelson
Vasquez

Floyd

De La Hoya
Hatton
Hernandez
Castillo
Corrales

That's with the exception of De La Hoya for Whitaker, who most feel he beat. Keep in mind that was a past his prime Whitaker against a prime DLH, comparable to a past his prime DLH against a prime Floyd. I scored both fights about the same for the other Floyd and Pea. And as far as second tier wins, Pea has that edge easily.

 

:good

It's only Mayweather fans who believe he was dominating that fight early. Playing defensive and allowing Hatton to dictate the pace(even while not landing cleanly himself) doesn't win you rounds.

 

You're brand new to boxing aren't you? Those weren't Whitakers biggest fights. Pernell didn't lose to ramirez if you've seen the fight. Sweet Pea is a natural lightweight, Hopkins a natural Light-heavy atsch

You're a dumbass.

 

Did Floyd face and beat the #1 P4P fighter to become #1? No, he beat Gatti. Thanks anyway.

Hopkins was a MW, bigger than both. Pea was shot, and a much smaller fighter than both. Most think he beat Oscar still. You really should die.

Neither would Pea, and he didn't. Castillo was closer to actually losing to Castillo than Floyd was to losing to Ramirez.

In conclusion, you're the biggest ****ing ****** in the history of the world.

 

let mayweather go up against paul williams and miguel cotto and lets have this discussion again.

 

I believe the resumes are comparable.

Whitaker fought the better caliber of fighter, Chavez, Nelson, DLH, and Trinidad.
.....but he only got a victory against one of them, and he was moving up in weight.
The Nelson fight was an impressive exhibition by Whitaker, but let it be noted that the fight was fought at lightweight and was a weight Nelson never won a title in or even proved to be competitive in.

Whitaker's caliber of opposition was better as I noted, but at least to the moment, nobody has been able to beat Mayweather.

The Mayweather victory for me over DLH because it was at 154 lbs, and his resounding KO victory over Ricky Hatton, to me is more impressive than any victory on Whitaker's ledger.
.....but like I said, Whitaker imo fought the better caliber fighter, and so those victories I noted for Mayweather balance it out with Whitaker's better caliber of opposition.

I was of the opinion that head to head, Mayweather would beat Whitaker, but I'm not absolutely convinced anymore.
The Zab Judah fight for me showed that Mayweather could be outboxed.
I had Judah taking like the first 4 or 5 rounds vs Mayweather.....and if a mental midget like Judah could do that, Whitaker would be able to sustain his efforts for an entire fight.

In any case, its a close boxing contest imo in a head to head matchup.
A slight edge to Mayweather in that he would probably land more meaningful shots during a head to head contest!

 

You consider that a clear Mayweather win but you scored Whitaker/Chavez a draw?

And on the other side, Judah won 3 of the first 4 rounds. He clearly lost the 3rd round, and lost every round from 5 onwards, other than maybe the 12th if you think Floyd gave it away.

 

Whitaker never lost in his prime. Period. DLH pretty much got beat by a Whitaker thats better days were behind him(dlh was in his prime). Floyd won a SD on ODLH. Don't even look at the Trinidad fight, He was completely outpowered outsized and to old for someone like Trinidad.

Whitaker in his prime would have Destroyed the version of DLH that fought Mayweather. Yet Floyd won clearly but wasn't very dominant. And based off the Floyd vs ODLH fight I'd pick Oscar to beat Floyd in his prime. Only point here is, Whitaker is just better head to head.

Just switch the roles,

A Prime Whitaker vs an Old as **** DLH woulda been a joke, Whitaker would have put on 5x the clinic that Floyd did, The rounds wouldn't have even been competative.