Comparing Tyson and Lewis' competition

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime vs Prime well if were talking about LL w/Stewart in his corner that jab would of stopped Tyson dead in his tracks ..One thing that LL learned as he got older was how to effectivly use his reach ..
     
  2. Steve Fox

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    Lewis was overwhelmed in the first was he? Absolutely priceless!
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Tyson did win the first round, but hardly anything impressive. He looked like he did when he fought Botha. Slow and old. He said he was badly hurt by an uppercut in the second round by Lewis, but I have to think Tyson would have never gotten hit by Lewis so cleanly in his prime.
     
  4. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually he was overwhelmed. He was definately tense which is why he mentioned it in the post fight interview. Also if you notice Lewis didnt let his hands go much until the second round when Tyson had already lost steam. He needed to calm down he needed to see a winded Tyson before he got more comfortable. Based on my observations from the fight I'd again say that he was overwhelmed.
     
  5. biglads

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    Tyson isn't the mythical beast that some have him to be.
    Even in his prime he looked less than stellar against a big heavy in Bonecrusher and a big one-handed heavy in Tony Tucker.

    The only notable HWT in his era that Lewis didn't fight was Bowe - and Bowe self destructed pretty quickly.
    Lewis' blowouts of Grant, Ruddock & Golota are just as impressive as Tyson - Berbick or Tyson - Spinks.

    Styles make fights and Tyson is made for Lewis.

    A prime meeting would see Lewis by mid-late round KO, just as happened when they met too late.
     
  6. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BoneCrusher held all fight long and did little to make a fight of it because he feared that Tyson would knock him out. Lewis looked unimpressive against Mavrovic and lackluster against Billups.

    Point is Lewis beat Mavrovic and Billups decisively. Just like Tyson beat Tucker and Smith.
     
  7. Steve Fox

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    You need to watch that again, or invest in a dictionary.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is utter bull****. Tyson can back after the first round and told his corner he was hurt. The uppercuts Lewis landed clearly hurt him and Lewis fought a masterful round during that fight as it sent the tone for the rest of the bout. You might want to try watching it sometime.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well personally I wouldn't have gotten into the ring with him on that night but obviously you think differently. Fortunately, most boxing fans also agree that Lewis systematically destroyed Tyson that night, even if he was a shell of himself, he was still dangerous early on and only an idiot would fail to take him seriously. And I'm not saying Lewis beat a prime TYson, what I am saying is that executed a well thought out plan that resulted in a systematic beating. You'd pretty much have to not be a boxing fan not to appreciate how systematic this was. Funny there are so many different types of fans, most seem to only appreciate it if a fighter takes out an opponent in the first two rounds, but although I enjoy that too, I actually enjoy a fighter sytematically beating someone over a number of rounds and softening them up for the take out. But to each his own.
     
  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I can certainly appreciate a fighter breaking down his opponents, thats why Im such a big fan of Evander Holyfield, and now Miguel Cotto.
    Call me crazy but Lennox Lewis systematically breaking down a shot fighter is not that impressive to me, just as his performance against Holyfield wasnt impressive. Even Emanuel Steward implored Lewis to step up the pace because he had a dead man in front of him in Tyson. The cautious style he fought with just made a man of his physical stature look so small in my eyes.
    On the other hand the way he took apart Klitschko over 7 or 8 rounds was impressive. Not because he took a lot of punches, but because he took the fight to Klitschko and forced his will.
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Berbick and Spinks were ten times the fighters Grant Ruddock and Golota ever were..:lol:
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    Well obviously the level of opposition has to matter, as for the Steward's comments, Lewis as asked about that and he said he hurt his hand with a punch earlier and needed a round or two to adjust to this. He didn't really see the point of arguing about this in between rounds.

    As mentioned I have a completely different take on this fight. Tyson's no joke even a shot Tyson and Lewis simply didn't want to take any unnecessary chances. Even a shot Tyson is dangerous if he connects. But I agree, Lewis' fight against Vitali was a more impressive. One must remember that the main objective of this sport is to hit and not be hit. It's not to go out there and wail away and hope your opponent doesn't connect before you do.
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes and thats what made Tyson so special and exciting in his youth, because he would come out wailing, but bobbed, weaved, and countered his opponents punches, never stepping back, and hardly ever getting hit cleanly,something he never did once coming out of prision. His timing never returned, and he was never the elusive target that he was when he was younger. He basically became a one dimensional banger.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    No argument from me. I was one of the few who picked Holyfield to beat him in their first fight, cause I saw the level of opposition he was blowing out and knew it was a joke.