Comparing Tyson and Lewis' competition

Yeah theres some guys on here I have done that with, all in all I try to listen to other peoples opinions as tough as it is sometimes. But yeah I admit sometimes my like or hate for a fighter clouds my true thoughts and views on there abilities and accomplishments. You seem to have a good knowledge and understanding of the sport, we need more posters such as your self and trolls as you said in your post.:good

 

Spot on, especially that last sentence ! :yep The way some of these posters act, you'd think their daughter was molested or they lost everything on a bet gone wrong.

 

That's a very insightful reply, I've said the same a number of times. I just wish more posters would accept the obvious, which is that the results speak for themselves and any excusses only serve to discredit the winner, who probably trained and fought his ass off to win and doesn't deserve this type of treatment.

 

Well I for one am glad you joined. :good

 

I enjoyed reading this post. Certain fighters, such as Tyson, Ali and Marciano have become mythical in peoples minds, and of course mere mortals couldn't possibly beat them, even if they may have struggled with less than elite fighters or won a close majority decision. The fact is any fighter can loose if they are fighting another elite fighter and the style match up is wrong or they had an off day for whatever reason. (ie lack of training, unknown injury) etc.

 

Some people might have thought Tyson wasn't shot but I hardly see this as terribly relevant. I'm not sure exactly how high Tyson should have been rated when he fought Lewis, maybe 8th or 9th so arguably Lewis should get some sort of credit for the win but I don't see any arguement that Tyson was anywhere close to his best.

 

And I've certainly never ever seen anyone claim Tyson was close to his best in '02. Not even the rabid Tyson fans.

The question was whether what Tyson had left was good enough to win, and obviously we got the answer to that.

I'd rather appreciate both Tyson and Lewis for their highs and their lows as a part of the HW landscape I've loved for so long. Individual standings are fine for debates and arguments but at the end of the day I wouldn't want to be without either guy.

 

True, and a very common sense post Van. Yet it's almost fascinating how many boxing fans don't seem to know this. Agree, like with Ali & Tyson; Marciano, Dempsey, & Johnson are mythical in many fans minds. The latter 3 usually among older fight fans.

Quick story. A few year ago, pre McBride fight, a guy in our office was talking up Tyson. This guy is probably more of a casual fan and I'm a more serious fan with a better perspective. I told him - he's no good anymore "Joe", he might lose to this guy. He kept talking up Mike. I actually thought Tyson would make more of a fight of it and had a 50-50 chance to stop McBride in the early rounds - myths die hard even among the more rational :yep
After the fight "Joe" said nothing, and not wanting to rub it in, neither did I.

 

No the best version of Tyson was beat by Douglas ..Lewis would of beat him just as bad !

 

Oliver McCall barring that mental break down was one hell of a heavy weight ..You can't compare Buster Douglas to Oliver McCall ..

 

If he could have then he would have tried to fight him in the 80's genius, BTW your logic is retarted as Sanders, Ruiz and Byrd should be able to beat Lewis since Rahman and McCall were able to.

 

That is the single most ignorant post I have ever seen.