Comparing Wilder and Vitali

That's the thing though, Vitali is not a great. He is most likely a H2H monster, and could beat some legitimately great or near great Heavies, but his resume is painfuly mediocre. I don't think he ever beat a divisional #1, he is 0-2 against his top 2 opponents, and he is very limited when it comes to men ranked in the top 5. He was content just being dominant over top 10 type of guys, most of whom just weren't all that good. There's a reason his fans are so adamant about him losing against Lewis and Byrd ''due to injuries''.

Wilder just happens to be even worse than that, having a shameful title reign and a total of like 3-4 wins against ranked men. Vitali is greater, but that doesn't mean he is great.

 

There are some parallels. IMHO Vitali's 9 title defenses are worth more than Wilder's 10 title defenses. And while for Wilder it is clear that his best win is Luis Ortiz, for Vitali I don't know what his best win is (at least not like this in my head). Neither of them beat the ATG boxers.

 

Comparing? Lol

Vitaly destroys Wilder within 5 rounds.

 

Sanders looked like he had Vitali down so maybe Wilder would be the one to actually do it if he connected like Sanders did

 

How would Wilder have reacted to getting clocked by Sanders?

 

Wilder loses many of his advantages vs Vitali and add the fact that Vitali had a serious solid chin. Late stop by Vitali who blossomed after the Kirk Johnson fight.

Vitalis confidence surged after his fight against Lennox and the criticism over the Byrd injury.

Lennox Louis learned from his losses to McCall and Rahman and Vlad learned from his losses but only so much you can do to cover weaknesses. Ali had a weakness to the Left Hook, Holmes to the right hand.

Wilder for a 213 lb. beanpole takes a pretty good punch and recovers well.

I believe the 3-fight trilogy with Tyson Fury took its toll on both men.

Time will tell - one thing about Joseph Parker is that he has been stating active and it showed. Being in condition to and staying in condition were something the Klitschko's did well, it was something that Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, and Evander Holyfield did well.

 

The difference is Vitali looked less vulnerable than Wilder.

Vitali beat all his B and C class fighters without barely losing a round where as Wilder was struggling immensely in some of them.

Also Vitali in his most notable losses was to an injury and a cut in which he was ahead on points.

Wilder on other hand has only won rounds vs Fury he knocked him down in losing like 3 out of 28 rounds he fought vs Fury. And obviously vs Parker just lost every single round in a glaring loss.

Whilst neither man has a very good resume Vitali looked alot less beatable overall and has never been behind on points in any fight in his career unlike Wilder has numerous times.

 

No there isn't alot separating them regarding resume but as I said Vitali barely lost a round in his career, and even in his losses which was on a cut and an injury he was never behind on scorecards so people see Vitali as a much better H2H fighter.

Vitali has an iron chin good workrate and could potentially win by stoppage or on points vs some very good Heavyweights of the past.

You can't say the same for Wilder he has limited skills and has to rely on his big right hand to bail him out of trouble which isn't going to work vs elite Heavyweights with good chins.

 

I don't really think Wilder showed adaptability in the fights with Ortiz, he was losing every round pretty much in both fights until his one trick right hand bailed him out of trouble.

His one one trick is very dangerous don't get me wrong, but it's not like hes showing adaptability in fights regarding skills or changing a gameplan like Leonard vs Hearns.

He was doing the samething he always does looking to sniper you at range with his right hand.

Vitali ruptured a ligament in his left shoulder vs Chisora and had to overcome that isn't that showing adaptability ?

If anything Wilder showed a lack of adaptability vs Parker when he was forced on backfoot where his power and range was negated so he couldn't do anything to alter outcome.

Lastly Vitali not having to come from behind is not a negative for me, infact it's a positive and is one of the reasons why hes rated pretty highly H2H because he barely lost a round in his career.

What you're talking about is two different things if you're saying there is not much between them regarding their resumes you would be right, but on a H2H basis Vitali rates alot higher than Wilder.

 

Well regarding whole package I think Vitali is a much better fighter than Wilder.

But regarding resume there isn't much between them although Vitali looked alot less vulnerable in most of his fights.

It's that simple really.