Comparing Wilder and Vitali

@lufcrazy just something to ponder.

Vitali won 13 world title fights compared to 10 for Wilder, and Vitali also beat 5 fighters ranked in the top 10 compared to 2 for Wilder.

 

Well Vitali edges Wilder in achievements and resume overall.

H2H it's not even close Wilder lost more rounds to Ortiz than Vitali did in his entire career.

Vitali does alot better vs past notable Heavyweights than Wilder does.

 

Well we have an idea of who's better H2H based on their career and overall skill set.

Vitali has more dimensions to his game and can win in more ways rather than just relying on a big punch to bail him out.

And finally as I said based on Wilder being outboxed numerous times where as Vitali never was logically you'd have to rate Vitali better H2H.

 

Wilder fought (3 times) with the best of his era, Vitali did not.
Although I see Vitali above Wilder, I don't see him as high as the others.

 

Wilder had already really lost to Fury before Joshua lost to Ruiz, so he was never the best.

Vitaly's resume is somewhat deeper with for example Sanders, Peters and Adamek and he never got brutalised or shutout like Wilder has.

It's true that Vitaly's resume also is thin on top names, but it's still a level above.

 

His skillset wasn't the reason he beat Ortiz he lost 95 percent of the rounds in both fights being outboxed by Ortiz his power bailed him out not his skillset.

Ortiz was also older than Wilder was vs Parker which has to be taken into consideration.

A limited puncher like Wilder who's lost about more than x10 amount of rounds Vitali did with similar level of wins.

It's no a brainer I don't see what's hard to understand about that TBH.

 

Well what's the point of having the discussion then ? I've gave you valid reasons why Vitali is considered a superior H2H fighter and also has a bit of better resume overall.

You've asked the question and I've gave you factual statistics, and regarding eye test how Vitali looked more impressive and didn't lose nearly as many rounds as Wilder did with similar level of wins.

Now if you want to dismiss it because they never fought eachother then this whole discussion is just a waste of time, but I think it's quite clear to anyone who's seen both fighters that Vitali is a better fighter, and would mostly likely beat Wilder in a fantasy match up aswell as matching up better against past Heavyweights.

 

How many times do I have to keep repeating myself before you understand ?

I've already agreed multiple times they have similar resumes although Vitali's resumes and achievements are slightly better overall.

But then in another sentence you keep saying there isn't much between then H2H when there clearly is.

Wilder has probably lost about 40 odd rounds in his career to similar or worse opposition than Vitali had. He barely lost single round in his career and was never outboxed in his career like Wilder has been multiple times.

So as I keep saying.....Vitali looked more impressive in his career hence he ranks clearly higher than Wilder I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

 

I'd pay to have seen Sanders against Wilder, mind. Someone there be getting knocked out like a b*stard. Hard. Probably Wilder as soon as Sanders shoots his left down the pipe, but the Tubbs disaster......